Good thing it's not a response to a specific event or you might have a point. They've been abused since literally the founding of the country.

Can you believe it? History started before this year? Crazy I know.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 12 2021 07:43pm

You are destroying your own case here. You're attempting to justify rioting by saying, "We have a historical reason to riot." The problem with that reasoning is that historical reasoning will never go away. That's precisely why it is called "history".

Criminal activity is criminal activity. If you want to excuse riots "because black" then you need to prepare for counter-calls excusing police brutality because "violent black people". By resorting to race for your argument, you're opening the door for racists to cry for racist policing.

Once again, the solution is equality. Today. Now. Everyone guilty of criminal activity, especially rioters, needs to be held accountable. Police guilty of brutality need to be held accountable. Excusing criminal behavior by one justifies criminal behavior by the other.

So you think we should take the wealth that was stolen from these communities and return it to them? Because that's the only way have real equality. You don't get to stab somebody at the starting line and then say "Okay, I'll stop, so let's keep going now". The other guy is still injured and at a massive disadvantage, and in our system that manifests as generational wealth disparity since less than one generation has even been able to get a fair home loan. (Red-lining still exists actually, despite it being illegal, so the problems amassing generational wealth are still very much here)

Why are you playing identity politics?

This is pretty unfair. If we go back to even Rodney King. Do you think 1991-2021 30 years is long enough? What about going back to MLK? He was born in 1929. The black community specifically suffered huge injustices from 1929 to 1968 when MLK was killed and then after leading up to the 1991 case of Rodney King and the 2020 case involving George Floyd. Look at all the casew inbetween that went riotless. So let me ask. From 1929-2021 that is 92 years. Do you think 92 years of off and on protests and yes even some riots. Do you think it is not enough time? Now add the whole populas. Take color away and leave the human individuals. As people is even 10 years not enough time of silently crying out against injustices is that to short of time? Maybe on an individual circumstances they did rush. However if you kept seeing things like this year after year. Your childrens children grow up hearing about it and becoming fearful. We have given "The System" enough peaceful times to allow them to change things. Unfortunately the change is not been for the good. I mourn for the people who have to live their lives everyday in fear. Thinking people only see them by their skin color. A skin color that has been racially profiled in bad light of law enforcement. You can not just put that 1 period of time alone when there have been many years of non violent protests. The People have waited long enough IMO. Unfortunately the people who choose to attack the private sector give everything a bad image that the media can make you focus on.

What wealth was stolen, from whom, when, and by who? I don't understand what you're attempting to argue here. This topic is about rioting and rioters, not about your need to accuse everything of being racist.

Burning, looting, and murdering private businesses and people in primarily black neighborhoods doesn't redistribute the wealth into those areas. It destroys what wealth currently exists in those areas.

"Give me all your stuff or I will kill you" is not "redistributing wealth". It's robbery. Further, if you go and look at the multimillionaire/billionaire level of black people, they are not investing in these black neighborhoods specifically because their investments may be destroyed in the next riot. Why isn't Oprah or Michael Jordan interested in such investments, do you think?

Let's say, just for a thought experiment, that Bill Gates hands you, personally, a million dollars to invest in whatever business you choose. Would you, personally, be more likely to invest in a poor black neighborhood in Minneapolis, Detroit, Baltimore, etc. or in a business in a more affluent district where law enforcement is more strict on fighting crime and businesses are less likely to be targeted for looting and burning by violent rioters?

It's kind of interesting to see you arguing against gentrification and adequate policing on the one hand, pro-rioting on the other hand, then claiming that it's all about comparative wealth levels. The easiest way to build wealth is not to take one person's wealth and hand it to another person. It's to provide a safe, orderly location for business to be conducted. Which is exactly the opposite of what happens when riots occur.

Sounds like you need to open a basic American history textbook. If you can really ask this question, then there's no reason to keep talking to you. You've got less than a first grade understanding of the subject.

This topic is about riots and rioters, not identity politics. You are attempting to justify riots that are destroying the wealth of primarily black areas by talking about wealth being stolen in these areas.

In your attempt to derail the topic and devolve it into yet another thread about identity politics, you've proven too ignorant to even understand that you're actively supporting activity that's destroying black communities.

Let's go with another thought experiment: Let's say we take 100% of Bill Gate's wealth, an estimated $130 Billion, and poured it all 100% directly into poor Minneapolis neighborhoods and businesses. I think we can both agree this would raise the quality of life to an extreme amount in the area, right? What happens, however, when the next action by the State, such as a police shooting occurs, and those neighborhoods and businesses are once again burned down by rioters? What happened to all that wealth? It's now gone. Nobody has it.

The first, absolute first thing you need to do to build wealth is establish order. By not treating violent rioters as the high grade criminals they are, and attempting to excuse their actions, you're actively preventing the building of wealth in those areas. Far from "less policing" and "defunding the police", there appears to be a very large incentive to heavily increase police presence, and provide significantly more training resources. The female officer that shot Wright clearly wasn't well-trained, or well-vetted. She escalated to lethal force (tasers are classed as a lethal weapon, even if you buy in to the excuse that she meant to draw her taser, not her pistol) against a suspect who had offered zero violence, and was not a physical threat. In response for this State-based official being undertrained and doing something terrible, black neighborhoods and businesses have once again been looted and burned. What does a riot against your own neighbors accomplish when it comes to convincing the State to change it's policies?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 12 2021 08:25pm

yet you can’t answer a simple question. puts you at preschool level. ironically that’s around the age that sociopaths start torturing animals. hmmm now why does that ring a bell