How ridiculous. Let's give a group of people everything they need in life and see if they riot. It makes a ridiculous assumption that after a major economic upheaval there would be a similar response down the line.

Try to rub your two little brain cells together (and maybe take a week off drinking) and ask yourself why they don't trust the system, and ask yourself why poverty and crime go hand in hand no matter what race.

Wait, it's now your claim that the riots aren't in response to police brutality at all, but is economically based? You're saying if you just give the rioters all the stuff, that they'll no longer riot over police shootings?

Now you're indicating that the basic justification for the riots in the first place doesn't even exist, but is instead simply being used as an excuse. Which further destroys whatever point you're attempting to argue.

Reported for flaming, btw.

Always a good reason to get new sneakers.

Almost like when you economically oppress a group, it's the police that actually enforce those discriminatory laws. Like, when you have drug laws written specifically to target minorities, it's the police actually carrying out the stops, arrests, and jailings, and that abuse leads to economic disparities.

There's more than one facet to this. Police enforce racist laws, racist laws lead to economic disparities, economic disparities lead to further abuse. It's all related. You can't pick out one thing and say they're protesting over that one issue, because that one issue has ripples across all other issues, and all other issues feed back into that one.

You say "we need equality", but you can't get equality before the police without restoring economic equality, and you can't restore a lasting economic equality without also fixing the police targeting those groups.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 12 2021 08:49pm

You ever been so mad you just hate everything until the situation resolves? People that live in poverty feel like that everyday. They got nothing to lose. Fuck ya give them a reason and the will take a TV from Target. Why the fuck would they not? Whats going to get worse? Less healthcare? Fuck they get better care IN jail

Which group is being economically oppressed and how are they being oppressed by black-owned businesses and homes? These riots are not targeting "oppression". Likewise, what about drug laws target minorities? The same 5 gram 5 year minimum applied to meth as crack, and the majority of meth charges were against white people. And those drug laws are off the books. Indeed, more and more drugs are being decriminalized at the state level, or having their level of crime reduced to a point where people won't end up in prison. This has been the trend for decades.

Police enforce the law. If you wish to make claims regarding racist laws, point out the specific racist law. In general, I tend to think that stealing all the merchandise from your neighbor's business, burning the business down, then murdering your neighbor for good measure because an employee of the State murdered someone is and should be illegal, regardless of your race. Don't you agree?

"Economic Equality" aka Equity doesn't exist and never has existed. Every society that tries it simply suppresses the citizenry while treating the agents of the government like kings, and most of those economies collapse. Every functional economy everywhere includes "haves" and "have-nots". The goal of equality is to provide equal opportunity for everyone to become a "have". How did Oprah become a billionaire? How did this poor black girl from a poor family who's first job was retail, like so many others, become a billionaire? It was equality of opportunity. She utilized her education and her strengths in speech to get a job at a radio station, and utilized her popularity to kick-start a talk show. However, if her grocery store, or neighborhood, or talk show studio was repeatedly burned down by rioters, would she have ever had a chance for success?

The search for this mythical "equity" invariably destroys equal opportunity. The need to take away from the haves and give to the have-nots doesn't create more wealth, it depresses it, as it deincentivizes success. If I am a master at building desks, and you suck at it or can't do it at all, you don't build more wealth by taking all my desks away without just compensation and handing them to you. Perhaps you're good at growing or harvesting the lumber that I need to build the desks. Perhaps you are good at making glue. Or perhaps you make the best Ribeye the world has ever seen. So rather than taking my desk away to give to you, you sell me the product you produce, and in return can now afford to purchase one of my desks. That's how you generate wealth. You don't arbitrarily attempt to inflate wages or redistribute the value of the goods or services other people produce. You incentivize more people to produce more goods and services. Wealth redistribution provides the exact opposite. If you have your basic requirements met without lifting a finger, why on earth would you want to produce something, rather than playing video games or whatever else you'd rather be doing?

Rioting is precisely the opposite of building wealth. Rioting destroys wealth. It does not and has never built wealth. Further, continual rioting in an area prevents the kind of investment required to incentivize more production. In other words, by supporting rioting, you're actively supporting criminal activity designed by it's very nature to prevent an area from becoming wealthy.

In order to end the riots, you need to enforce the laws. In order to enforce the laws, you need well trained law enforcement that has the tools needed to carry out their duties. These are positions of extreme responsibility and extreme risk, and carry a higher level of authority when it comes to use of force. EVERYONE agrees that officers who abuse that authority should be held responsible for their abuses. But what exact message are you trying to send when you destroy wealth generation in an area over the actions of a police officer who gets out of line?



Backwards reasoning from a person who's clearly never lived in poverty. The goal when you live in poverty is to get out of poverty. That does not happen by stealing a tv or holding up your local liquor store. It happens by being productive. But as mentioned earlier, how many of these poor black neighborhoods that consistently riot is Oprah or Michael Jordan investing in new businesses for? Who is willing to watch their investments be smashed and burned over and over and over, throwing away their own future? Without the employment opportunity, how are these poor areas supposed to get less poor? The wealth has to be generated to sustain them, and the more the areas riot, the less wealth will be generated.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 12 2021 09:27pm

Backwards reasoning from a person who's clearly never lived in poverty. The goal when you live in poverty is to get out of poverty. That does not happen by stealing a tv or holding up your local liquor store. It happens by being productive. But as mentioned earlier, how many of these poor black neighborhoods that consistently riot is Oprah or Michael Jordan investing in new businesses for? Who is willing to watch their investments be smashed and burned over and over and over, throwing away their own future? Without the employment opportunity, how are these poor areas supposed to get less poor? The wealth has to be generated to sustain them, and the more the areas riot, the less wealth will be generated



Broke people don’t think anything like this

Let me clarify. Once they have given up hope

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Apr 12 2021 09:32pm

Yawn, another essay where Bob shows off how little he understands about... basically everything.

You have no idea how "broke people" think. According to you, Oprah's not a billionaire. Can't possibly be. She was raised in poverty, and the only thing she ever wanted to do was steal a TV.

Be honest in how you portray others. The primary issues surrounding poor and depressed areas stem from a lack of jobs. A lot of the lack of jobs is due to high taxation to support those "broke people" paired with high crime that penalizes the businesses that would supply the jobs.

This'll be hard, but imagine for a moment that you're poor. You live in government-funded housing, and gain just enough welfare to "get by" without being able to afford anything meaningful. No car, a second hand TV with a black bar, etc. What is better, do you think, to get a job, that will be able to provide you with better housing, a car, and a new TV, or randomly rioting to steal the TV, when your own government housing may be burned down in the riots that nets you that TV?

The problem arises when there aren't jobs. And lack of jobs in many of these areas can be directly tied to businesses being unwilling to invest due specifically to high incidence rates of crime and civil unrest.

Oprah is the definition of all poverty? Lol.
Good on her but thats not how people with no jobs think or behave If there is a lack of jobs what one is there to get? Yes please enlighten everyone on the upwardly mobile ghetto