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Nov 22 2020 07:21pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 22 2020 07:18pm)
When you lose even Tucker Carlson, you know you've gone off the cliff...




That's not actually true. Chamber of commerce type Republicans want more immigration and free trade, the Trump wing wants less of both. On the flip side, the trumpy working-class populists dont really care about fiscal conservatism. They are not ideologically opposed to the mommy states, as long as it nurtures them and not smug coastal elites or the brownies. Both of these factions dont care that much about abortion or Christian values, but go along with this stuff because they need the votes of evangelicals.

Democrats are certainly more deeply divided on policy than the GOP, but saying that the latter is unified on pretty much all policy is very inaccurate.


-> 4 party system

-> Trump 2024
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Nov 22 2020 07:32pm
Quote (Bazi @ 23 Nov 2020 02:21)
-> 4 party system

-> Trump 2024


To be honest, I'm not sure if 4 parties are actually needed. Three would probably be sufficient. All this derisive talk about establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans (pre-Trump, potentially also post-Trump) being a "uniparty" has more than just a grain of truth to it. Problem is that the genuine leftists and the social-conservative union on the right would find no common ground, so if you split American politics this way, the winner takes all system would cause the centrist, status-quo preserving uniparty to dominate.
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Nov 22 2020 07:53pm
Quote (fuzzy159 @ Nov 22 2020 04:42pm)
The only thing that united the leftist weirdos was a hatred for Trump. Once he no longer is in the equation you kiddos will be split and at eachothers throats once again making the 2024 election ez for us.


Yup. Enjoy the next four years.
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Nov 22 2020 08:43pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 22 2020 07:32pm)
To be honest, I'm not sure if 4 parties are actually needed. Three would probably be sufficient. All this derisive talk about establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans (pre-Trump, potentially also post-Trump) being a "uniparty" has more than just a grain of truth to it. Problem is that the genuine leftists and the social-conservative union on the right would find no common ground, so if you split American politics this way, the winner takes all system would cause the centrist, status-quo preserving uniparty to dominate.


You could easily unite the fringes of the parties on economically populist grounds. The far right and far left both have common economic grievances. Trump increased rural turnout by rallying against trade deals and promising to bring jobs back. That kind of stuff just needs to be changed to have an actual mechanism of improving lives, like universal healthcare and higher education. It's the reason why Bernie polled really well with Trump's coalition.
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Nov 22 2020 09:44pm
Here's the trump campaign saying they don't know who this person is

https://money.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-disavows-own-election-230440089.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Hey Endless. Do I need to say it?

I'll let you say it.
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You arent relevant in this subforum anymore.



This post was edited by MizzouFTW on Nov 22 2020 09:46pm
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Nov 22 2020 09:47pm
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Here's the trump campaign saying they don't know who this person is

https://money.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-disavows-own-election-230440089.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Hey Endless. Do I need to say it?

I'll let you say it.



This was posted by Trans Tankie within the first two pages
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This was posted by Trans Tankie within the first two pages


I don't care if Jesus Christ himself came on JSP and posted it. I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to show you you're full of shit.
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Nov 22 2020 09:55pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 22 2020 07:47pm)
This was posted by Trans Tankie within the first two pages


tbh don't talk shit about viv. i dunno if you were talking shit there. but i respect that posters opinions greatly :)

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Nov 22 2020 10:01pm
Endless really made a whole thread about this and 2 hours later Rudy releases a statement shutting down Endless and his batshit conspiracy bullshit. You made a whole thread bro. You made it to page 2 before someone posted evidence that you're full of shit. It's hilarious to me.
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Nov 22 2020 10:15pm
Quote (MizzouFTW @ Nov 22 2020 10:01pm)
Endless really made a whole thread about this and 2 hours later Rudy releases a statement shutting down Endless and his batshit conspiracy bullshit. You made a whole thread bro. You made it to page 2 before someone posted evidence that you're full of shit. It's hilarious to me.


This is page 2. Viv's post was on the first page.
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