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#31
Oct 14 2020 08:19am
Quote (Santara @ Oct 14 2020 05:05am)
When cops do it, we call it an arrest. When a citizen does it, we call it kidnapping? Her shutdown order has cost thousands of people their rights to a livelihood, which is pretty criminal, for no appreciable gain. They SHOULD arrest her.


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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#32
Oct 14 2020 08:23am
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One reason we ignore right wing terrorism is clearly rationalization and tacit agreement.


Its hard to bash white people that wave flags i guess.
I have no idea how they get free passes either.
FBI is still rating them as a huge threat.
Blue haired PDX people WAAAAY scarier in this forum
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#33
Oct 14 2020 08:24am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Oct 14 2020 10:23am)
Its hard to bash white people that wave flags i guess.
I have no idea how they get free passes either.
FBI is still rating them as a huge threat.
Blue haired PDX people WAAAAY scarier in this forum


Weird that they all wave flags of armies we've defeated.
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#34
Oct 14 2020 08:25am
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Weird that they all wave flags of armies we've defeated.


In the hands of anyone else they are called "participation trophies"
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#35
Oct 14 2020 08:28am
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its not 1800, i know people who live more than a day's wagon ride away.

and race alone and vitamin d uptake doesn't control for access to healthcare, nor diabetes trends, obesity trends, diet, smoking trends, number of multigenerational households and/or child care arrangements.

if i had to wildly speculate i'd say causally it would be like:

access to healthcare > number of multigenerational households and/or child care arrangements > obesity and diabetes > vitamin D


Math matters. Your priorities are wrong

For covid

Social pressure to eat healthy food > vitamin D > things actually out of your control
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#36
Oct 14 2020 08:29am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 14 2020 09:28am)
Math matters. Your priorities are wrong

For covid

Social pressure to eat healthy food > vitamin D > things actually out of your control


What a republican thing to say, access to healthcare and child care and affordable housing are out of out control.
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#37
Oct 14 2020 08:29am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 14 2020 07:28am)
Math matters. Your priorities are wrong

For covid

Social pressure to eat healthy food > vitamin D > things actually out of your control


that not even a logical train of thought or events..
not surprising.
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#38
Oct 14 2020 08:34am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 14 2020 10:29am)
What a republican thing to say, access to healthcare and child care and affordable housing are out of out control.


Having a 15 percent shorter wait time at a hospital..

Or having a 15% cheaper babysitter for your ex’s kid...

Doesnt improve COVID survival/t cell immunity rates.
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#39
Oct 14 2020 08:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 14 2020 08:40am)
its not 1800, i know people who live more than a day's wagon ride away.

and race alone and vitamin d uptake doesn't control for access to healthcare, nor diabetes trends, obesity trends, diet, smoking trends, number of multigenerational households and/or child care arrangements.

if i had to wildly speculate i'd say causally it would be like:

access to healthcare > number of multigenerational households and/or child care arrangements > obesity and diabetes > vitamin D


Fortunately, we don't need to rely on speculation.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30268-0/fulltext
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.04.20188268v1 <-- this one especially.
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Oct 14 2020 08:39am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Oct 14 2020 09:34am)
Having a 15 percent shorter wait time at a hospital..

Or having a 15% cheaper babysitter for your ex’s kid...

Doesnt improve COVID survival/t cell immunity rates.


having a childcare u can afford instead of tossing your germ monsters in with grandma after school = less dead grandmas.

having insurance where u go to the hospital rather than trying to ride it out because you fear bankruptcy from ventilator saves lives too.

in any case your entire "point" is a strawman, i said straight away Vitamin D supplements aren't expensive and people should be taking them, and i'm simply accessing causes of deaths by contrast, not even suggesting specific action by the govt. i'm arguing against Vitamin D being the highest causal factor, not arguing that the govt writes a blank check to fix more causal factors.
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