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Jan 16 2020 08:54am
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 16 2020 06:53am)
I run a psych unit and we think they are faking seizures first off usually. We made a trick: created a legit sounding diagnosis for fake seizures and people will tell us they have it.

If you ever see non-psychogenic elliptic seizures it means people throw themselves on the ground to try to meet their needs lol. It was previously referred to as 'pseudo seizures'.


Was a diabetic seizure to my knowledge. He could be lying but I can believe guards would let people die like that in prison.

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And why would I trust something from a group that has made their entire model out of acting in bad faith?


They showed a dude throwing out typical edgelord revolutionary rhetoric. PV isn't a great source for a lot of things, but this seems pretty cut and dry.

They led him to boast about his radical views.

The thing I laugh at about this is how they did #expose2020 like this would effect Bernie in the slightest. I am totally against Bernie and this exposes him in no way whatsoever imo.
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Jan 16 2020 09:10am
Quote (bogie160 @ 16 Jan 2020 09:03)
What do you think O'Keefe fabricated about the conversation?


Quote (Thor123422 @ 16 Jan 2020 09:12)
I dont need to know the specifics


this is why we have a nation filled with election and reality-deniers
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Jan 16 2020 09:33am
pretty much all the germans had to do was show videos of what happened in concentration camps, or do forced walk throughs of them with locals. and the unknown horrors of the final solution worked themselves out.
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Jan 16 2020 09:51am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 16 2020 09:52am)
Bored waiting at the dentist office or I wouldnt have bothered and I was right lol. Video is full of deceptive edits, half the clips either dont show his lips or are seriously out of synch with what hes saying, and theyre too short to allow context.

This is pretty standard for project veritas though because, and ill say it again, theyre a literal propaganda mill.


The narrative being propaganda or veritas being biased pushing a narrative is also a fine argument.

In science and scientific observation there's such a thing as a Occam's razor. When i see someone move their lips and noise comes out forming words and sentences that's usually good enough to say 'this person is speaking' , i don't need to come up with 3deep5me fantastical explanations that require some massive leaps of logic to come up with an alternative because i don't like what reality is.
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Jan 16 2020 09:59am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 16 2020 09:51am)
The narrative being propaganda or veritas being biased pushing a narrative is also a fine argument.

In science and scientific observation there's such a thing as a Occam's razor. When i see someone move their lips and noise comes out forming words and sentences that's usually good enough to say 'this person is speaking' , i don't need to come up with 3deep5me fantastical explanations that require some massive leaps of logic to come up with an alternative because i don't like what reality is.


Yeah and when it comes from a propaganda mill that has been caught deceptively editing and fabricating videos its a simpler assumption that they are again fabricating evidence.

If you really want to make a science analogy then its like a lab getting caught intentionally fabricating data. Their lab is shut down immediately and all results are dismissed, past present and future.
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Jan 16 2020 10:45am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 16 2020 07:59am)
Does anyone think this is something a Bernie supporter wouldn't say?

Comrade Bernie refuses to criticize actual Socialist dictatorships (e.g. Venezuela), what is surprising about this?


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 16 2020 08:01am)
Id bet I could find a Trump supporter that says far worse.


B-B-B-BUT tRuMp SuPpOrTeR

Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 16 2020 08:03am)
What do you think O'Keefe fabricated about the conversation?


Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 16 2020 08:12am)
I dont need to know the specifics. Lifes too short to answer questions when called out on my bullshit..

ftfy.

In other words, you have no actual evidence, & simply want to deflect from the very believable story that a Bernie campaign organizer is talking about putting people in gulags lol.
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Jan 16 2020 10:52am
Quote (Skinned @ 16 Jan 2020 04:31)
You know James O'Keefe is a proven liar who is known to doctor video
evidence and that no thinking man takes seriously.

I don't know about you but I resent people who lie to me in an attempt to trick me.

A good litmus test tbh.


Yep. Project Veritas films tens or hundreds of hours of video until they record something provocative that fits their narrative. It's bad journalism. They do this every year.

In this case, I don't think the video is doctored, per se (strategically edited, yes). I think that after hundreds of hours of searching, Project Veritas finally found a Bernie campaign volunteer drunk enough and/or stupid enough to say something provocative.
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Jan 16 2020 10:54am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 16 2020 10:45am)
B-B-B-BUT tRuMp SuPpOrTeR




ftfy.

In other words, you have no actual evidence, & simply want to deflect from the very believable story that a Bernie campaign organizer is talking about putting people in gulags lol.


Gee if only I had gone on to explain how the video is deceptive and why we shouldn't believe clips from a propaganda mill.

Walt I did...
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Jan 16 2020 10:56am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 16 2020 10:59am)
Yeah and when it comes from a propaganda mill that has been caught deceptively editing and fabricating videos its a simpler assumption that they are again fabricating evidence.

If you really want to make a science analogy then its like a lab getting caught intentionally fabricating data. Their lab is shut down immediately and all results are dismissed, past present and future.

when did project veritas fabricate evidence? i don't follow them much, but they do make their rounds in the news media sometimes.
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Jan 16 2020 11:03am
Quote (Leevee @ Jan 16 2020 02:46am)
When you have no arguments to bring against a person's proposed policies, just call him a communist. People are so scared of communism that this is guaranteed to work. :)


I dont think theres any shortage of people saying things that are wrong with his policies... hes an admitted socialist are you for real?
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