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Nov 9 2019 09:32am
Quote (gel87 @ Nov 9 2019 03:20am)
another nice combi would be to skill 1 lycan, werebear, shockwave etc. then u can stun them meanwhile, however shape change skills are super delayed by all the fire spells..

i often play a 99fcr fireclaw shockwave bear, it also got decent fire skill dmg, but i tend to not cast to many other fireskills due to the delay, but i got on wep 2 a 6 facet pb and 4 facet jmod.


Yeah the delay is a pain so I dont know how effective that would be. The goal is to land your volcano and trigger fhr

Quote (Beausky @ Nov 9 2019 04:02am)
Nice guide!


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Quote (Hell_of_Dammed @ Nov 9 2019 04:05am)
Fissure on pelt does not increase vulcano dmg. Only hard points do.

Also 'geddon' sounds like a stupid attempt to speak in some ghetto language.


Good to know

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sticky this part plz


Come back and read that part anytime 🤪

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Nov 9 2019 09:40am
Theres not even 1 fire druid or shaman or whatever that gives any problem in pvp, its just a bad char easy to kill.
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Quote (Wisteria @ Nov 9 2019 10:40am)
Theres not even 1 fire druid or shaman or whatever that gives any problem in pvp, its just a bad char easy to kill.


I gave people problems and collected ears for 2 hours last night, so I disagree. Thanks for posting squirt
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Nov 9 2019 10:15am
I wouldn't really swear by dueling tips copy/pasted from ~12 years ago, though some of it is still on point.
a level 20 (1+19) shockwave will have 13 seconds duration and be effective enough to use with volcano in unmorphing, the main concern there is the skill points that are much harder to forfeit than an ele druid. 3-5 skill points is pretty costly and is going to cut into your volcano (boulder) or grizzly (how) damage, especially without a geddon pelt. Its basically impossible to duel some matchups without SW on a shaman, like ES sorcs, because the only way you can even break their regen is to land like 4+ bear hits in a row.
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Nov 9 2019 10:29am
i love the build, i prefer none coockie cutters as well :)
my build is fc/shockwave based. like this:

2/20/30/base ar/life/chamBer diadem
2/20/20@/57life
Magefist
arach
2 x 10fcr/ar/str/dex/res
eni / eod scarab
shadows
giant tresher 2 x 40ed/15ias and 4 shaels (+4 rangeadder)
-30/+30 pb and - 20/+20 jmod

8 x shape 45
9 x 20/5@
20/20/25 Torch, yes the 25 is important for epic swirl stun
20/20 annie
cube (cta, demon limb, 2 sojs, mara)

skills:
20 fireclaw
1 shockwave
1 werebear/lycan
1oak, grizzly, ravens, the 2 wolves
20 fissure
1 cyclone
20 volcano
20 moulten
Rest fissure


on asgard i use better helm and wiz gloves bug belt and 1 free ring for wisp/raven/soj, and eth gt for nearly 3k psy on top.

i have 17 - 20 k with eth gt on asgard, so you could drop down to level 1 fc base and add good grizzly if wanted.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 9 2019 10:35am
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Quote (00apacolypse @ Nov 9 2019 04:44pm)
I gave people problems and collected ears for 2 hours last night, so I disagree. Thanks for posting squirt


Psn necs game I see.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 9 2019 11:15am)
I wouldn't really swear by dueling tips copy/pasted from ~12 years ago, though some of it is still on point.
a level 20 (1+19) shockwave will have 13 seconds duration and be effective enough to use with volcano in unmorphing, the main concern there is the skill points that are much harder to forfeit than an ele druid. 3-5 skill points is pretty costly and is going to cut into your volcano (boulder) or grizzly (how) damage, especially without a geddon pelt. Its basically impossible to duel some matchups without SW on a shaman, like ES sorcs, because the only way you can even break their regen is to land like 4+ bear hits in a row.


Yeah I thought about leaving out the dueling strategies entirely as I believe every situation is handled differently. Like you said some of it is useful though, but I surely wouldn't follow it in every situation. I figured quoting the strategies would be a good baseline to work from for someone starting out with half a brain to adapt.

I've also found myself using a larger ratio of summon GC's alot of the time because the bear puts in work. Sometimes I'll go 9x summ charms and just cat and mouse with volcanos and bear stomps. I've left people pretty confused as to why they just disintegrated


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Nov 9 2019 10:34am
Quote (Wisteria @ Nov 9 2019 11:31am)
Psn necs game I see.


Whatever helps you sleep at night brother!


Quote (gel87 @ Nov 9 2019 11:29am)
i love the build, i prefer none coockie cutters as well :)
my build is fc/shockwave based. like this:

2/20/30/base ar/life/chamBer diadem
2/20/20@/57life
Magefist
arach
2 x 10fcr/ar/str/dex/res
eni / eod scarab
shadows
giant tresher 2 x 40ed/15ias and 4 shaels (+4 rangeadder)
-30/+30 pb and - 20/+20 jmod

8 x shape 45
9 x 20/5@
20/20/25 Torch, yes the 25 is important for epic swirl stun
20/20 annie
cube (cta, demon limb, 2 sojs, mara)

skills:
20 fireclaw
1 shockwave
1 werebear/lycan
1oak, grizzly, ravens, the 2 wolves
20 fissure
1 cyclone
20 volcano
20 moulten
Rest fissure


on asgard i use better helm and wiz gloves bug belt and 1 free ring for wisp/raven/soj


That's awesome, I'll have to experiment!
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Nov 9 2019 10:59am
Quote (00apacolypse @ Nov 9 2019 10:32am)
Yeah I thought about leaving out the dueling strategies entirely as I believe every situation is handled differently. Like you said some of it is useful though, but I surely wouldn't follow it in every situation. I figured quoting the strategies would be a good baseline to work from for someone starting out with half a brain to adapt.

I've also found myself using a larger ratio of summon GC's alot of the time because the bear puts in work. Sometimes I'll go 9x summ charms and just cat and mouse with volcanos and bear stomps. I've left people pretty confused as to why they just disintegrated


having a stash with the 9 remaining skillers for either swap and a bunch of tokens is another option. Having facet gear lets you go full fire druid, having tokens lets you go full summoner combo on demand
if you were level 99 and had a godly pelt, then you can switch between a normal setup of 5200 fissure / 2600 volcano / 8000 grizzly, or a hardcore fire setup of 6700 fissure / 3600 volcano / 21000 geddon with -75% resist, or an all in driveby / volcano shockbear combo setup of 12k grizzly and max lycan or something.
also I should amend myself, shockwave caps out at 10 duration, the displayed duration on the skill is incorrect, so 13 shockwave is actually 10s shockwave
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Nov 9 2019 12:44pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 9 2019 11:59am)
having a stash with the 9 remaining skillers for either swap and a bunch of tokens is another option. Having facet gear lets you go full fire druid, having tokens lets you go full summoner combo on demand
if you were level 99 and had a godly pelt, then you can switch between a normal setup of 5200 fissure / 2600 volcano / 8000 grizzly, or a hardcore fire setup of 6700 fissure / 3600 volcano / 21000 geddon with -75% resist, or an all in driveby / volcano shockbear combo setup of 12k grizzly and max lycan or something.
also I should amend myself, shockwave caps out at 10 duration, the displayed duration on the skill is incorrect, so 13 shockwave is actually 10s shockwave


Yeah I keep an ele and summon set stashed as well as 20/11 specific sc's for certain matchups. Not so much fire dedicated gear as stash space is tight.

This post was edited by 00apacolypse on Nov 9 2019 12:46pm
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