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Oct 17 2019 08:04pm
I think its kind of fitting that the news of the death of Rep. Cummings, a man who for better or worse made impassioned pleas for sanity and restoration of civility and understanding, was overshadowed by the fanatic TDS media & democrats obsessing over Mulvaney making a boneheaded gaffe and immediately correcting himself, thinking that a misstatement that contradicts not only the established position of the administration but also all the verifiable facts and sworn testimony from everyone else, is a bombshell that could impeach the president. Cummings body isn't even in the ground and people are frothing over some trivial nonsense that a rational society could move on from in 5 seconds.
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Oct 17 2019 08:47pm
Cummings signed subpoenas on his death bed. He'd want whatever it takes to take down this corrupt administration. The Mulvaney admission is another step along the road.
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Oct 17 2019 09:42pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 17 2019 10:47pm)
Cummings signed subpoenas on his death bed. He'd want whatever it takes to take down this corrupt administration. The Mulvaney admission is another step along the road.




Yeah, I was there too... I saw him doing that.

Seriously ???
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Oct 18 2019 02:41am
Flipping Texas would be a pretty damning indictment of his presidency tbh.
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Oct 18 2019 03:04am
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ 18 Oct 2019 10:41)
Flipping Texas would be a pretty damning indictment of his presidency tbh.


In 2018, they had a strong, exicting "popstar" candidate running against Ted Cruz, the most unlikable human being on this planet and one of the weakest incumbents in the whole Senate; in a D+8.6 national environment; with an unprecedented 2:1 fundraising advantage in the Democrat's favor - and they still fell short.

The fundamentals in 2020 wont get any better than that for the Democrats. They will probably be substantially worse.
Texas might turn blue eventually, but not yet in 2020.

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Oct 18 2019 03:23am
Macho Man Randy Savage for President!!


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Oct 22 2019 01:25pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/diplomat-who-raised-alarm-about-withholding-aid-to-ukraine-testifies-in-impeachment-probe/2019/10/22/086fb850-f436-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html

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The senior U.S. diplomat in Ukraine said Tuesday he was told release of military aid was contingent on public declarations from Ukraine that it would investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election, contradicting President Trump’s denial that he used the money as leverage for political gain.

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Taylor walked lawmakers through a series of conversations he had with other U.S. diplomats who were trying to obtain what one called the “deliverable” of Ukrainian help investigating Trump’s political rivals.

Taylor said he spoke to Ambassador Gordon Sondland, the U.S. envoy to the European Union.

“During that phone call, Amb. Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President [Volodymyr] Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election,” Taylor said in the statement.

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“Amb. Sondland also told me that he now recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling the Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a White House meeting with President Zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of investigations — in fact, Amb. Sondland said, ‘everything’ was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance,’” Taylor told House investigators.

“He said that President Trump wanted President Zelensky ‘in a public box’ by making a public statement about ordering such investigations.’


:bouncy:

So I guess the one piece of exculpatory evidence that the cult can fall back on is Ukraine wasn't aware the aid was being withheld until over a month after the Zelensky call(according to Time and NYT). But that doesn't mean Trump wasn't withholding aid for corrupt purposes, just that he was doing it ineffectively.

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Oct 22 2019 01:32pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 22 2019 03:25pm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/diplomat-who-raised-alarm-about-withholding-aid-to-ukraine-testifies-in-impeachment-probe/2019/10/22/086fb850-f436-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html



:bouncy:

So I guess the one piece of exculpatory evidence that the cult can fall back on is Ukraine wasn't aware the aid was being withheld until after the Zelensky call. But that doesn't mean Trump wasn't withholding aid for corrupt purposes, just that he was doing it ineffectively.




If the Ukraine didn't know... which they didn't... then there's no quid prop quo. If the House HAD a case at all, Schiff wouldn't have to craft BS and the House wouldn't need to have closed door sessions.

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Oct 22 2019 01:38pm
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If the Ukraine didn't know... which they didn't... then there's no quid prop quo. If the House HAD a case at all, Schiff wouldn't have to craft BS or need to have closed door sessions.


Closed door depositions are standard because you don't want to help people coordinate their stories.
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Oct 22 2019 01:40pm
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Closed door depositions are standard because you don't want to help people coordinate their stories.




...or the American public to see/hear what you're doing.

/e I honestly have nothing against Dems. It's their recent "actions" that I have a problem with. Like the whistle blowers, that have been busted already.



/ee I have trouble with...

1. Leakers
2. Those that accuse but remain anonymous.
3. Crafters of BS evidence.
4. Buying off the media.
5. Frivolous lawsuits.


...just to name a few.

This post was edited by Ghot on Oct 22 2019 01:45pm
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