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Goomshill
#1381 Nov 12 2019 07:14pm
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Nov 12 2019 07:12pm)
There's nothing concrete to support the suggestion Biden pressured Ukraine to take actions to the benefit of his son.


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#1382 Nov 12 2019 07:23pm
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Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Nov 2019 02:14)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY


This was your last argument ?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-span-video-joe-biden-ukraine/



Smashed.
Plaguefear
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 13 2019 12:14pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY


So biden getting a prosecutor fired for FAILING to investigate burisma means biden was acting in a corrupt way because his son worked at burisma years later?
thundercock
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 12 2019 05:10pm)
based on the officials at that meeting, there's a pretty good chance Eric Ciaramella himself told the Ukrainians to drop the investigation or even explicitly asked them to fire Shokin, which they did two months later after Joe Biden personally intervened
but I guess none of these facts are relevant and he's just a random person blowing a whistle out of conscience


I'm glad you understand.
Goomshill
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Nov 12 2019 07:27pm)
So biden getting a prosecutor fired for FAILING to investigate burisma means biden was acting in a corrupt way because his son worked at burisma years later?


His son was working at Burisma at the time, and he was pushing them to drop an investigation into Burisma.

on Jan 19th 2016, Eric Ciaramella held a meeting telling Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma
on Feb 2nd, Shokin raided estate of Burisma's head oligarch Zlochevsky, while he was in exile in Moscow and seized his assets on corruption charges
on Feb 4th, Hunter Biden called up Tony Blinken, who was Joe Biden's point man on foreign affairs
on Feb 24th, Burisma's representatives directly asked the US State Department to intervene and drop the corruption allegation against Burisma, citing Hunter Biden being on the board
on Mar 1st, the 3rd-highest state official met with that same representative of Burisma while state officials emailed back and forth with their Kiev embassy
on Mar 2nd, then-secretary of state John Kerry met with Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's partner on the board of Burisma
on Marc 28th, Joe Biden personally intervened and got Shokin fired by threatening to withhold foreign aid

Not only was Hunter Biden working at Burisma at the same time, but he was involved in the messages being exchanged with the state department to lobby for the intervention.

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thundercock
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 12 2019 05:53pm)
His son was working at Burisma at the time, and he was pushing them to drop an investigation into Burisma.

on Jan 19th 2016, Eric Ciaramella held a meeting telling Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma
on Feb 2nd, Shokin raided estate of Burisma's head oligarch Zlochevsky, while he was in exile in Moscow and seized his assets on corruption charges
on Feb 4th, Hunter Biden called up Tony Blinken, who was Joe Biden's point man on foreign affairs
on Feb 24th, Burisma's representatives directly asked the US State Department to intervene and drop the corruption allegation against Burisma, citing Hunter Biden being on the board
on Mar 1st, the 3rd-highest state official met with that same representative of Burisma while state officials emailed back and forth with their Kiev embassy
on Mar 2nd, then-secretary of state John Kerry met with Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's partner on the board of Burisma
on Marc 28th, Joe Biden personally intervened and got Shokin fired by threatening to withhold foreign aid

Not only was Hunter Biden working at Burisma at the same time, but he was involved in the messages being exchanged with the state department to lobby for the intervention.


You're going to be very disappointed lol
Plaguefear
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 13 2019 12:53pm)
His son was working at Burisma at the time, and he was pushing them to drop an investigation into Burisma.

on Jan 19th 2016, Eric Ciaramella held a meeting telling Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma
on Feb 2nd, Shokin raided estate of Burisma's head oligarch Zlochevsky, while he was in exile in Moscow and seized his assets on corruption charges
on Feb 4th, Hunter Biden called up Tony Blinken, who was Joe Biden's point man on foreign affairs
on Feb 24th, Burisma's representatives directly asked the US State Department to intervene and drop the corruption allegation against Burisma, citing Hunter Biden being on the board
on Mar 1st, the 3rd-highest state official met with that same representative of Burisma while state officials emailed back and forth with their Kiev embassy
on Mar 2nd, then-secretary of state John Kerry met with Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's partner on the board of Burisma
on Marc 28th, Joe Biden personally intervened and got Shokin fired by threatening to withhold foreign aid

Not only was Hunter Biden working at Burisma at the same time, but he was involved in the messages being exchanged with the state department to lobby for the intervention.


Got any proof of any of this? Because biden stated refusal to prosecute burisma as one reason shokin was fired, can you prove otherwise?
Do you have transcripts?
If this was all true trump has biden dead to rights on corruption, now where are the charges?

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Nov 12 2019 08:05pm
theCrossbones
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Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 12 2019 05:53pm)
His son was working at Burisma at the time, and he was pushing them to drop an investigation into Burisma.

on Jan 19th 2016, Eric Ciaramella held a meeting telling Ukraine to stop investigating Burisma
on Feb 2nd, Shokin raided estate of Burisma's head oligarch Zlochevsky, while he was in exile in Moscow and seized his assets on corruption charges
on Feb 4th, Hunter Biden called up Tony Blinken, who was Joe Biden's point man on foreign affairs
on Feb 24th, Burisma's representatives directly asked the US State Department to intervene and drop the corruption allegation against Burisma, citing Hunter Biden being on the board
on Mar 1st, the 3rd-highest state official met with that same representative of Burisma while state officials emailed back and forth with their Kiev embassy
on Mar 2nd, then-secretary of state John Kerry met with Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's partner on the board of Burisma
on Marc 28th, Joe Biden personally intervened and got Shokin fired by threatening to withhold foreign aid

Not only was Hunter Biden working at Burisma at the same time, but he was involved in the messages being exchanged with the state department to lobby for the intervention.


looks like a big bunch of "what about ism"
who cares if he's guilty prosecute him also.
Trump doesn't get free pass because you don't like what Biden did or didn't do.
Glad your point of view is strictly aligned per party.

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