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EndlessSky
#21 Sep 24 2019 04:40pm
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 24 2019 06:37pm)
Oh look another chapter of slinging shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

Not surprised the same people that were gullible enough to buy into Russiagate for years out of confirmation bias are frothing with excitement about this.




Yep, yep.


I'm also impressed with Pelosi's punctuality. I guess she made the announcement at 5:50pm. She lied in what she said...but she did make the announcement.

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IceMage
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 24 2019 06:37pm)
Oh look another chapter of slinging shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

Not surprised the same people that were gullible enough to buy into Russiagate for years out of confirmation bias are frothing with excitement about this.


TBH I rather Trump didn't act like a corrupt buffoon so we could maybe discuss the Democratic primary or something happier.
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Quote (IceMage @ Sep 24 2019 05:35pm)
So Hillary and Biden are now the same person? You said 2020 nominee. And there's no evidence Hillary colluded with Ukraine to get dirt.

What do you call the Manafort ledger? Where do you think it came from? John Solomon would love to have a word
We already know that Giuliani was digging into the Hillary/Ukraine angle as the main focus and Biden was secondary, this is old news

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The evidence shows that Biden wasn't threatening to withhold aid in order to protect his son.


No, it doesn't. In fact, the evidence shows to the contrary that the west was actively involved in replacing independent or pro-russian officials with western puppets, and the prosecutor they removed was one such figure who was digging into corruption by western entities- Hunter Biden's company included- rather than the opposing oligarchs. Its hardly a bold statement for me to point out that Ukrainian politics for the past however many years has been a proxy fight between western and russian spheres of influence, with the entire political system being delegitimized and turned into puppetry. What do you think Podesta and Manafort were doing over there, vacationing in Kiev?

The evidence shows Biden has spent Hunter's whole life bailing him out, this is hardly the first time
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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 24 2019 06:44pm)
What do you call the Manafort ledger? Where do you think it came from? John Solomon would love to have a word
We already know that Giuliani was digging into the Hillary/Ukraine angle as the main focus and Biden was secondary, this is old news



No, it doesn't. In fact, the evidence shows to the contrary that the west was actively involved in replacing independent or pro-russian officials with western puppets, and the prosecutor they removed was one such figure who was digging into corruption by western entities- Hunter Biden's company included- rather than the opposing oligarchs. Its hardly a bold statement for me to point out that Ukrainian politics for the past however many years has been a proxy fight between western and russian spheres of influence, with the entire political system being delegitimized and turned into puppetry. What do you think Podesta and Manafort were doing over there, vacationing in Kiev?

The evidence shows Biden has spent Hunter's whole life bailing him out, this is hardly the first time


Yes, Hillary sat in her command center in New York pulling the strings of every DNC staffer. :lol:

What right-wing swamp did you get this idea from? Links would be helpful. I've seen no good reason to believe Biden was some free agent working to fire a righteous prosecutor because he was going after Biden's son. All the evidence points to him working on behalf of the American government(and being supported by other Western governments) to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor.

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Quote (IceMage @ Sep 24 2019 05:50pm)
Yes, Hillary sat in her command center in New York pulling the strings of every DNC staffer. :lol:


She kind of did. There's a reason every DNC memo had to be passed through her campaign headquarters.
Donna Brazile wasn't very happy

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What right-wing swamp did you get this idea from? Links would be helpful. I've seen no good reason to believe Biden was some free agent working to fire a righteous prosecutor because he was going after Biden's son. All the evidence points to him working on behalf of the American government(and being supported by other Western governments).


A source to give you a low-down on the entire geopolitical scenario going on in ukraine for the past decade?
The evidence shows Biden saying explicitly on tape he was coercing the Ukrainians by withholding aid unless they fired that prosecutor, that the prosecutor they fired was investigating western companies/oligarchs like hunter's firm, that the prosecutor who replaced him was a solid western-aligned clinton loyalist who openly supported her and who dropped the case, that the US and Russia were in a clear geopolitical tug of war over influence in Ukraine and turning their democracy into a farce as the state department ran a foreign influence campaign under Podesta/Manafort/etc. We know that Biden had another one of his phone calls to the Ukrainian president to discuss 'american involvement in gas companies' just a week before Hunter was given the lucrative no-show job worth millions on the board, we know that the investigation was dropped by the prosecutor they replaced. We know Biden spent his whole life bailing out Hunter from trouble both scandalous and criminal, his crack-pipe-cocaine-bag-ID-card-rental-car comes to mind.

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Quote (Ghot @ 24 Sep 2019 23:18)
Especially with Trump releasing the transcript... tomorrow.


/e Almost as if he's giving them enough rope to hang themselves with.


TRUMP PLAYIN 5D CHESS WITH DEMONRATS!
LIBS SMASHED!

Seriously still beating tht drum?
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Lock her up!
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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 24 2019 05:25pm)
"We need to impeach Trump for the uncorroborated claim he did something that our nominee for 2020 was already proven to have done"
It seems like they dropped russiaburger like a hot potato and tried to latch onto Ukraine and change tracks as if nothing happened.


Stronger than impeaching over a BJ.

Trump is basically Nixon, lol.

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 24 2019 05:38pm)
No chance of getting through the senate and will guarantee a Trump re-election.

This is Pelosi's career.


Pelosi is over #32432

Bitch is Teflon.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 24 2019 06:37pm)
Oh look another chapter of slinging shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

Not surprised the same people that were gullible enough to buy into Russiagate for years out of confirmation bias are frothing with excitement about this.


You guys had birthers and truthers so taste and savor it.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 24 2019 06:06pm)
There's a contingent of Republicans who get giant boners for "THE LIBERALS ARE PERSECUTING US!". They are just ignoring that those people tend to always feel persecuted and therefore always turn out to vote.


Anything to raise turnout benefits Democrats.

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Goomshill
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Trump is not only releasing the transcript but also clearing the 'whistleblower' to speak to congress
He's not going to leave the democrats an excuse to hide behind. They're going to have to change tracks so fast I bet next week they'll still be in an "impeachment inquiry" but now reverted to "obstruction" and memory hole'd the ukraine angle
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