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Jun 2 2019 11:23am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jun 2 2019 09:59am)
True practitioners of Islam cannot coexist in a western civilization.


Why not?
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Jun 2 2019 11:57am
Agree with OP
Islam is a cancerous war machine that needs to be exterminated
Worldwide genocide of Muslims is the only viable solution
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Quote (ssdrmstre @ 2 Jun 2019 12:23)
Why not?


The reason is simple.

The entire premise of Islam is the "belief" that the Qur'an was delivered by Allah via an angel Gabriel. In reality, it is evolved from Christian strophic hymns which were originally written in the Syriac language:

http://www.aramaic-dem.org/English/History/Christoph%20Luxenberg.pdf

However Muhammadans regard the Qur'an as the perfect, inimitable, unaltered, inerrant word of god: eternal. Therefor, the Qur'an is considered "superior" to any/all so-called man-made laws, despite the Qur'an itself being man-made. It is for this reason (regard for the Qur'an as divine) Muhammadans do not respect non-Muslims' nations' laws for "belief" that they are man-made, and the Qur'an came from god therefor is superior. This is what is causing much of the conflict, and why "true practitioners of Islam cannot coexist in a Western civilization": the entire goal of Islam is to convert non-Muslim nations into Islamic ones, by any means necessary.

This is the reason for:

i. Suppression of criticisms of Islam (fascism)
ii. Everything is free from taxpayers (socialism/jizya tax collection)
iii. Blame the Jews (scapegoating)
etc.

and is the embodiment of the most principle world-view division of:

"BELIEVER" vs. "UNBELIEVER"

In effect: Muslims persecute non-Muslims for not "believing" and/or respecting their "belief", which is a completely false "belief".

To give people an idea: Muslims are facing the wrong direction entirely when praying, as the Qur'anic Mecca was actually Petra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0mrMofyJl8

Islam is in reality a humanitarian crisis that pins its own crimes perpetually on Jews, when in reality the Muhammadans are doing exactly what they are accusing Jews of. For example, people like Clinton (Abedin), Brennan, Strzok, AOC etc. are the Islamic equivalent of "goyim": dumb puppets that do the bidding of Islam (ie. destroy the U.S. from within). People like Obama, Ilhan, Sarsour, Tlaib etc. are bonafide Islamist political jihadists.

Darul Islam is the powerhouse entity behind the global Left: their main strategy is to get as many people focused *everywhere else* (ie. scapegoating to Jews, creating hatred for others etc.) so as to not look at Islam, hence the real root of Islamophobia: prevent criticisms of Islam.

In reality Darul Islam has the phobia because it is standing on 1400 years of perpetual lie after lie about the real origins of Islam, Muhammad and the Qur'an.
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Jun 2 2019 12:05pm
Quote (ggurg0d @ 2 Jun 2019 12:57)
Agree with OP
Islam is a cancerous war machine that needs to be exterminated
Worldwide genocide of Muslims is the only viable solution


I agree it is cancerous, and a war machine that needs to be put to an end.

However worldwide genocide is not (nor should it ever be) a solution: the first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim, therefor whatever efforts to release them from their psychological bind to Islam / Qur'an / Muhammad would be more effective.

I emailed Benjamin Fulford regarding two contacts he had that the historical Muhammad was trained in the Vatican:

Quote (Benjamin Fulford)
The reference I had to Muhammad being trained by the Catholics originally came from the Catholic Encyclopedia. I also was told this by the P2 Freemasons. My understanding was that he was to disseminate a version of monotheism that was suited to the region, but then the whole project went rogue.

Did you know the Koran does not mention Mecca or the need to worship a rock there?

https://benjaminfulford.net/2019/01/06/content-in-prepare-for-change-12-27-18/

I keep pressing him to follow up on these leads: if they have merit, the solution to the global conflict is related to it. The "free world" must get access to the Vatican archives to find if there is any information regarding the training of Muhammad to consolidate Arabia. If true, this implicates the Vatican for... pretty much all of the crimes committed by Islam.

We already know Mecca did not exist at the time of Muhammad and the original Mecca was actually Petra, precisely in accordance with the work of people like Dan Gibson, Gunter Luling, Gerd Puin, Patricia Crone etc.

This post was edited by jEevion on Jun 2 2019 12:07pm
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Quote (jEevion @ Jun 3 2019 04:59am)
The reason is simple.

The entire premise of Islam is the "belief" that the Qur'an was delivered by Allah via an angel Gabriel. In reality, it is evolved from Christian strophic hymns which were originally written in the Syriac language:

http://www.aramaic-dem.org/English/History/Christoph%20Luxenberg.pdf

However Muhammadans regard the Qur'an as the perfect, inimitable, unaltered, inerrant word of god: eternal. Therefor, the Qur'an is considered "superior" to any/all so-called man-made laws, despite the Qur'an itself being man-made. It is for this reason (regard for the Qur'an as divine) Muhammadans do not respect non-Muslims' nations' laws for "belief" that they are man-made, and the Qur'an came from god therefor is superior. This is what is causing much of the conflict, and why "true practitioners of Islam cannot coexist in a Western civilization": the entire goal of Islam is to convert non-Muslim nations into Islamic ones, by any means necessary.

This is the reason for:

i. Suppression of criticisms of Islam (fascism)
ii. Everything is free from taxpayers (socialism/jizya tax collection)
iii. Blame the Jews (scapegoating)
etc.

and is the embodiment of the most principle world-view division of:

"BELIEVER" vs. "UNBELIEVER"

In effect: Muslims persecute non-Muslims for not "believing" and/or respecting their "belief", which is a completely false "belief".

To give people an idea: Muslims are facing the wrong direction entirely when praying, as the Qur'anic Mecca was actually Petra:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0mrMofyJl8

Islam is in reality a humanitarian crisis that pins its own crimes perpetually on Jews, when in reality the Muhammadans are doing exactly what they are accusing Jews of. For example, people like Clinton (Abedin), Brennan, Strzok, AOC etc. are the Islamic equivalent of "goyim": dumb puppets that do the bidding of Islam (ie. destroy the U.S. from within). People like Obama, Ilhan, Sarsour, Tlaib etc. are bonafide Islamist political jihadists.

Darul Islam is the powerhouse entity behind the global Left: their main strategy is to get as many people focused *everywhere else* (ie. scapegoating to Jews, creating hatred for others etc.) so as to not look at Islam, hence the real root of Islamophobia: prevent criticisms of Islam.

In reality Darul Islam has the phobia because it is standing on 1400 years of perpetual lie after lie about the real origins of Islam, Muhammad and the Qur'an.


You have no idea, there is about a dozen different factions with differing beliefs and goals.
Islam is not one United force.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 2 Jun 2019 15:52)
You have no idea, there is about a dozen different factions with differing beliefs and goals.
Islam is not one United force.


There is only one Qur'an, one Islam. There is a Sunni-Shia rift, as well as proxy derivatives, but that there are "differing beliefs" is untrue: Islam universally holds the following as true:

i. The Qur'an is the perfect word of god
ii. Muhammad is the final messenger of god
iii. Islam is the only acceptable religion

There is no Islamic derivative that does not hold to these: along with the numerous injunctions to wage war against "unbelievers".

Also "belief" is not a virtue - it is the problem. If a person "believes" something that is not true, that becomes their own source of ignorance/suffering.

I recommend reading this just to understand how "fucked" the history of Islam is re: what Muslims "believe" and what is actually true. It will also explain these perceived "different factions" which boils down to worshiping the location of a rock.

http://searchformecca.com/Mecca%20Question.pdf

This post was edited by jEevion on Jun 2 2019 03:57pm
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Quote (IchBinDaddy @ Jun 2 2019 01:25pm)
I lived with a Muslim family in a Muslim village in a Muslim country for about 7 months before moving to the air base.
Concrete house, chickens and cows walking around the streets.

Yet, I will never meet anyone as kind as this family and community was.

I don’t like religion in general, but I’ll never forget how much hospitality and welcome I felt when I was in this Muslim village in a Muslim country.


Muslims by themselves are generally no different than most people. They're kind and accommodating people. It's when they start to achieve a demographic and political critical mass, that's when problems arise. The religion is about submission. They'll tolerate a minority as long as the minority submits. There's a reason progressives flee Muslim countries like rats from a sinking ship. If you can't see this then you are willfully blind.

This post was edited by CarsV on Jun 2 2019 04:47pm
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Jun 2 2019 04:50pm
Imagine if Christians where trying to impose their laws and concepts

- No tities
- Wife in the kitchen
- No abortion
- Rice every friday
- Getting touched by the pastor/priest every sunday

So good
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Quote (IchBinDaddy @ Jun 2 2019 03:25pm)
I lived with a Muslim family in a Muslim village in a Muslim country for about 7 months before moving to the air base.
Concrete house, chickens and cows walking around the streets.

Yet, I will never meet anyone as kind as this family and community was.

I don’t like religion in general, but I’ll never forget how much hospitality and welcome I felt when I was in this Muslim village in a Muslim country.


Its not a religion thing, you would have felt same from an eastern Christian community.
It is a matter of different values in eastern cultures.
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 2 2019 10:50pm)
Imagine if Christians where trying to impose their laws and concepts

- No tities
- Wife in the kitchen
- No abortion
- Rice every friday
- Getting touched by the pastor/priest every sunday

So good


It's almost like there isn't a hot controversy about separation of church and state in the west. This is something that the majority Muslims care little for and will blindly support religion based laws. Something liberals in their incessant ass-licking of Islam conveniently ignore.
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