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Aug 19 2019 09:30pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 20 Aug 2019 03:57)
If you want to know what you're talking about I suggest you visit the heart of this country someday

go to the small towns and sit in the community churches, attend the local community events

something I've done while I made my way to the west coast

g'damn there are some good people out there, outside of this internet fuckery and the twitter wars and the forum battles

they take care of each other and aren't sitting around full of hate, they have political views and flaws as we all do but when it comes to community they are as good as it gets

people outside of the country and from only the cities don't know what it's truly like out there or how these people really are

but this would require you to see people as people not pawns and enemies

this would require you to listen to the voices and beliefs of others

the soul of America lives on no matter what the internet and tv cherry picks

the heart still beats and until you make that journey you will never know what this country is really about or the type of people that fill it


The soul of America!!! The heart still beats!!! OMFG... Give me 5 minutes I gotta do something.
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Quote (TransTankie @ Aug 19 2019 11:30pm)
The soul of America!!! The heart still beats!!! OMFG... Give me 5 minutes I gotta do something.


He's right though. Time and time again you demonstrate how out of touch with reality you are with America and its people. You read like some bored ass poster from the reddit sub /politics, coincidentally a sub that attracts a lot of non-Americans who collectively circle-jerk about American politics and issues lol.
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The soul of America!!! The heart still beats!!! OMFG... Give me 5 minutes I gotta do something.


People say insensitive things
They believe silly things
We are flawed

The majority do not want harm done to anyone based on race or sexuality or anything of the like. They dont support nazis and they dont support fascism. Are you oblivious to how many of these people are literally from proud military families that fought against it?

People like to stick it to the left and like to poke fun at bleeding hearts like me but they arent nazis fascists and many arent even racists. You have no idea how many white people completely acknowledge how shitty natives were treated. They largely love their perception of our culture. Shit chunks of them claim native blood all the time. They know the wrongs done they just dont like hearing about it all the time. They sure as fuck dont support genocides. The worst they believe is in a lock everyone up way of justice and tough enforcement but even that is heading in the right direction

Conservatives are significantly more interested in shitting on the left and libs than any race or sexuality etc

And that's their right to express it doesnt make them anything other than a good old fashioned shit talker, not anything worse

This post was edited by Beowulf on Aug 19 2019 09:54pm
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People say insensitive things
They believe silly things
We are flawed

The majority do not want harm done to anyone based on race or sexuality or anything of the like. They dont support nazis and they dont support fascism. Are you oblivious to how many of these people are literally from proud military families that fought against it?

People like to stick it to the left and like to poke fun at bleeding hearts like me but they arent nazis fascists and many arent even racists. You have no idea how many white people completely acknowledge how shitty natives were treated. They largely love their perception of our culture. Shit chunks of them claim native blood all the time. They know the wrongs done they just dont like hearing about it all the time. They sure as fuck dont support gencoides. The worst they believe is in a lock everyone up way of justice and tough enforcement but even that is heading in the right direction

Conservatives are significantly more interested in shitting on the left and libs than any race or sexuality etc

And that's their right to express it doesnt make them anything other than a good old fashioned shit talker, not anything worse


I was gonna read the last post out in a silly southern voice and put it to a backing track of the US national anthem and a video of the flag waving but honestly I can't be arsed to put in that much work just to mock your inane jingoism.

I have family in America. I know what some parts of it are like... and yes - people are people and the sky is the sky everywhere.
I have no idea what the fuck the point of your post is. It's almost like you're trying to imply that somewhere I said that all Americans are nazis.

Like the level of dishonesty and strawmanning is reaching obscene levels.What the fuck are you even arguing against? Nothing I've said or even implied that's for sure.
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I was gonna read the last post out in a silly southern voice and put it to a backing track of the US national anthem and a video of the flag waving but honestly I can't be arsed to put in that much work just to mock your inane jingoism.

I have family in America. I know what some parts of it are like... and yes - people are people and the sky is the sky everywhere.
I have no idea what the fuck the point of your post is. It's almost like you're trying to imply that somewhere I said that all Americans are nazis.

Like the level of dishonesty and strawmanning is reaching obscene levels.What the fuck are you even arguing against? Nothing I've said or even implied that's for sure.


Who are behind your perceived rise of facism then? City liberals? Cause I can tell you it it ain't the country that I know well

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Who are behind your perceived rise of facism then? City liberals? Cause I can tell you it it ain't the country that I know well


Who are behind it?

Are you implying it's some organised conspiracy?

White supremacist groups pull from many demographics. Poor white southerners are at high risk for sure but so are disenfranchised, uneducated city kids. What we do know is that these hate groups have increased in number and membership drastically over the last 4 yrs... with a slight dip after Charlottesville. Used to be they couldn't cobble together more than 10 people for a march. Now we see hundreds and sometimes thousands. Good news is membership has been dropping (except for the Proud Boys who are on a roll since swapping McInnes for Tarrio and adopting their 'inclusive' recruitment) in late 2018 due to antifascist actions that have disrupted their organising and recruitment and placed them at greater risk of exposure to their communities and employers. (and no I'm not talking about punching, antifascism isn't all punching) and infighting in the KKK and some other groups.

But yea... they pull from all over the place. Mostly from the 6% or so of Americans who are full in on the white oppression/white identity shit - https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right

Generally the poorer and less educated you are the more likely you are to be a dumbfuck with racist ideas. Who'dathunkit? Also those who are divorced have alarmingly high rates.

But that's explicit white nationalism. Honestly I'd say if you support Trump at this point you're a moron or a racist. Probably both.

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Aug 19 2019 10:44pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Aug 19 2019 09:06pm)
I'm concerned that the children and grandchildren of honorable warriors for civil rights have forgotten that the fight was to live in peace together as equals not to exact revenge and use political and social power to minimize the struggle of poverty stricken children that are from parents that don't bow to the pull for power


Unable to take the wins we've been blessed with from the blood sweat tears and suffering of ours parents and grandparents we tarnish their legacies with lies of a country going to shit when in reality they succeeded. Black brown and white came together and improved

You aren't even here and you spit on our ancestors and their honorable victories just so you can play political internet nazi fighter. We are Americans and this country has made unbelievable progress in such a short time.

You and those like you want to compare yourselves to true heroes of history fighting fascism in the modern day? What a disgrace

Republicans are willing to work on criminal justice reform, people are trying to come up with a plan to lessen the suffering that is going to come from automation, people are leaning towards less war

all of this opportunity to do even more good together and you shameless power grabbers that want to control everyone shit on that opportunity to improve even more to exaggerate about a threat that we as Americans have largely already sent packing

White children black children brown children we all mourn when they are harmed and when they lose their lives. These punks in portland will not change that, shitposters online will not change that, all those discords you live in will not change that, edgelords will not change that, stragglers from a dying ideology will not change that

Fuck that. Fuck Antifa


Quote (Beowulf @ Aug 19 2019 10:57pm)
If you want to know what you're talking about I suggest you visit the heart of this country someday

go to the small towns and sit in the community churches, attend the local community events

something I've done while I made my way to the west coast

g'damn there are some good people out there, outside of this internet fuckery and the twitter wars and the forum battles

they take care of each other and aren't sitting around full of hate, they have political views and flaws as we all do but when it comes to community they are as good as it gets

people outside of the country and from only the cities don't know what it's truly like out there or how these people really are

but this would require you to see people as people not pawns and enemies

this would require you to listen to the voices and beliefs of others

the soul of America lives on no matter what the internet and tv cherry picks

the heart still beats and until you make that journey you will never know what this country is really about or the type of people that fill it


Quote (Beowulf @ Aug 19 2019 11:41pm)
People say insensitive things
They believe silly things
We are flawed

The majority do not want harm done to anyone based on race or sexuality or anything of the like. They dont support nazis and they dont support fascism. Are you oblivious to how many of these people are literally from proud military families that fought against it?

People like to stick it to the left and like to poke fun at bleeding hearts like me but they arent nazis fascists and many arent even racists. You have no idea how many white people completely acknowledge how shitty natives were treated. They largely love their perception of our culture. Shit chunks of them claim native blood all the time. They know the wrongs done they just dont like hearing about it all the time. They sure as fuck dont support genocides. The worst they believe is in a lock everyone up way of justice and tough enforcement but even that is heading in the right direction

Conservatives are significantly more interested in shitting on the left and libs than any race or sexuality etc

And that's their right to express it doesnt make them anything other than a good old fashioned shit talker, not anything worse


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are you trying to undermine the 'antifa is a dangerous terrorist organisation' narrative? careful, that might trigger wolfie - and trumpsters.
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Aug 19 2019 11:21pm
Quote (TransTankie @ 19 Aug 2019 23:49)
I was gonna read the last post out in a silly southern voice and put it to a backing track of the US national anthem and a video of the flag waving but honestly I can't be arsed to put in that much work just to mock your inane jingoism.

I have family in America. I know what some parts of it are like... and yes - people are people and the sky is the sky everywhere.
I have no idea what the fuck the point of your post is. It's almost like you're trying to imply that somewhere I said that all Americans are nazis.

Like the level of dishonesty and strawmanning is reaching obscene levels.What the fuck are you even arguing against? Nothing I've said or even implied that's for sure.


your posts here are of the nature that everyone who isn’t klantifa is a national-socialist (irony noted)

yeah the royal aristocrats you bragged about being in moved to the flyover states all to give you “perspective about America

don’t lie you pale pasty privileged lefty aristocrats are still inbreeding in your gated in ivory tower in derbyshire lmfao
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