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Apr 27 2019 04:34pm
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kinsey?


money

Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 27 2019 10:20am)
But what a certain gender should do or say changed over time in the same society, or was very different across societies.

The implication to your argument is therefore that those societies had significantly different biologies that caused it.


i'd think what is expected of a man or woman initially hinged on their biology and that technological progress (agricultural revolution, industrial revolution etc.) facilitates societal progress that permits a broader range of roles for men and women. why some societies made the advances that they did and why others didn't and remain bow and arrow civilizations are a different matter. while there are some matriarchal tribes i doubt they're sending the women out to do the hunting.

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 27 2019 10:45am)
Nobody cared about it. Science was by and for the privileged. We could talk about the actual history of science but I'm not taking that on. Empiricism rose with witch hunting. When women were allowed to do science you ended up with Marie freakin Curie and Double Helix structure. Lol. Imagine how much further we would be if all humans could work on this stuff. "Soft sciences" lol.


phrenology is a precursor to psychology. your forebearers in the field of soft sciences are the ones who thought negroes were no better than cattle or that women are lacking in their capacity to think. i don't deny that it's a necessary but it's a field that has always been tainted by subjectivity, bias, politics and pitifully inadequate experimentation if any. like i can't trust this guy in the middle when he says to trust him when he says trans athletes don't have any advantages cuz he's done all the research already.

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i'd think what is expected of a man or woman initially hinged on their biology and that technological progress (agricultural revolution, industrial revolution etc.) facilitates societal progress that permits a broader range of roles for men and women. why some societies made the advances that they did and why others didn't and remain bow and arrow civilizations are a different matter. while there are some matriarchal tribes i doubt they're sending the women out to do the hunting.


India used to have a recognized third gender. Were those cultures biologically different enough that this was warranted? The jobs of men and women have drastically changed even as recently as 1700. Does that coincide with a drastic change in our biology?

No... not really. There is no intrinsic link between sex and gender, especially now that any necessity for one sex to do things the other sex would be poor at are gone with technological advancement.
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India used to have a recognized third gender. Were those cultures biologically different enough that this was warranted? The jobs of men and women have drastically changed even as recently as 1700. Does that coincide with a drastic change in our biology?

No... not really. There is no intrinsic link between sex and gender, especially now that any necessity for one sex to do things the other sex would be poor at are gone with technological advancement.


Duffman self-hating Indian.
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Duffman self-hating Indian.


Indians actually hate each other more than they hate anyone else lawl
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Duffman self-hating Indian.


Learned recently Ghandi was a freedom fighter.... for Indians.

If you weren't Indian he was racist as fuck against you and made of point of how blacks were inferior to Indians and whites.

Kind of casts him in a new light. Less about freedom and more about HIS freedom.

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Learned recently Ghandi was a freedom fighter.... for Indians.

If you weren't Indian he was racist as fuck against you and made of point of how blacks were inferior to Indians and whites.

Kind of casts him in a new light. Less about freedom and more about HIS freedom.


He is more celebrated for leading the relatively peaceful severence of Pakistan from India. He was a deeply flawed man. Like Martin Luther King and side bitches. Just adds dimension and makes you rethink the men behind the myths. Flawed people doing their best.
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He is more celebrated for leading the relatively peaceful severence of Pakistan from India. He was a deeply flawed man. Like Martin Luther King and side bitches. Just adds dimension and makes you rethink the men behind the myths. Flawed people doing their best.


True that
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He is more celebrated for leading the relatively peaceful severence of Pakistan from India. He was a deeply flawed man. Like Martin Luther King and side bitches. Just adds dimension and makes you rethink the men behind the myths. Flawed people doing their best.


How does getting bitches mean MLK was flawed?

Sounds like some real nigga shit to me

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Learned recently Ghandi was a freedom fighter.... for Indians.

If you weren't Indian he was racist as fuck against you and made of point of how blacks were inferior to Indians and whites.

Kind of casts him in a new light. Less about freedom and more about HIS freedom.

so he was redpilled?
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Duffman self-hating Indian.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 27 Apr 2019 22:09)
Learned recently Ghandi was a freedom fighter.... for Indians.

If you weren't Indian he was racist as fuck against you and made of point of how blacks were inferior to Indians and whites.

Kind of casts him in a new light. Less about freedom and more about HIS freedom.

two privileged lefties who have no idea about minorities
not surprised

Quote (Thor123422 @ 27 Apr 2019 22:33)
How does getting bitches mean MLK was flawed?

Sounds like some real nigga shit to me


Yeah reported for this post

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