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Feb 17 2019 11:06am
Quote (Froziph @ Feb 17 2019 12:01pm)
lol'd


I'm not sure about the argument/discussion with tommyv, I blocked him. BUT cospri and the COC gem does not share the same CD. Neither does having 2 separate cospri or 2 separate COC gems.

Cooldown reduction in boots does help a lot though.

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Feb 17 2019 11:52am
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I'm not sure about the argument/discussion with tommyv, I blocked him. BUT cospri and the COC gem does not share the same CD. Neither does having 2 separate cospri or 2 separate COC gems.

Cooldown reduction in boots does help a lot though.


Yes, they do not SHARE a cd, both can proc individually. I'm saying that both the different procs have the same cooldown duration, as in it lasts equally long.
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Feb 17 2019 12:09pm
Quote (Froziph @ Feb 17 2019 12:52pm)
Yes, they do not SHARE a cd, both can proc individually. I'm saying that both the different procs have the same cooldown duration, as in it lasts equally long.


Yeah, this is correct. With the CDR on boots/gloves, it does feel a lot better though, especially with headhunters.
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Feb 17 2019 02:18pm
Quote (Froziph @ Feb 17 2019 05:23am)
So? They still have the same cd


say what you want you are way too hung up on this cd
the build is insane and plays super smooth with insane dps
it speaks for itself
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Feb 17 2019 03:09pm
Quote (Da5id1an @ 17 Feb 2019 21:18)
say what you want you are way too hung up on this cd
the build is insane and plays super smooth with insane dps
it speaks for itself


What, i think the build is great. The only thing i said is that tommys argument with CoC to Cospris is Volls to PCoC is trash
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Feb 19 2019 07:54am
Quote (Froziph @ Feb 17 2019 09:09pm)
What, i think the build is great. The only thing i said is that tommys argument with CoC to Cospris is Volls to PCoC is trash


its how the game works.


ofc, when do CoC-cyclone, you never notice thease game facts, since you only strike ones per attack (can be multitarget or single target, but its one attack within the aps



CoC-cyclone-cospris == as many coc procs as you have cospris proc's
Lightning strike-coc-corpris-gmp-chain 0.5aps 50%crit == 3to4 times more CoC-procs then Cospris-procs



i never ever used a Cospris! so why do i understand the mechqanics of it better then your lvl100 cospris toon?
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Quote (Tommyvv @ 19 Feb 2019 14:54)
its how the game works.


ofc, when do CoC-cyclone, you never notice thease game facts, since you only strike ones per attack (can be multitarget or single target, but its one attack within the aps



CoC-cyclone-cospris == as many coc procs as you have cospris proc's
Lightning strike-coc-corpris-gmp-chain 0.5aps 50%crit == 3to4 times more CoC-procs then Cospris-procs



i never ever used a Cospris! so why do i understand the mechqanics of it better then your lvl100 cospris toon?


People mention CoC builds, obviously talking the flavour of the month Cyclone version, so your statement:
Quote (Tommyvv @ 4 Feb 2019 14:13)
Cospris is like a 16.66%effective CoC gem/QUOTE]


is trash xd

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Quote (Froziph @ Feb 19 2019 02:46pm)
People mention CoC builds, obviously talking the flavour of the month Cyclone version, so your statement:

is trash xd




Cyclone -30%less movement speed
The minimum travel distance is 10 units
The base movement speed is 38 units per second.
Damage enemies around you, then perform a spinning series of attacks as you travel
Therefore, high movement speed will allow the player to start another Cyclone sooner.

So, with 80%movement speed,
38*1.8*0.7/10 = 4.8 aps, with the slowest weapon ingame, with short cyclones, using 50%effective weapon damage, zero attack speed




your cookie cutter cyclone build ignore the prime cyclone mechanics as they do with coc-mechanics, like the unknowing cospris dogshits they are
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Quote (Tommyvv @ Feb 19 2019 04:07pm)
Cyclone -30%less movement speed
The minimum travel distance is 10 units
The base movement speed is 38 units per second.
Damage enemies around you, then perform a spinning series of attacks as you travel
Therefore, high movement speed will allow the player to start another Cyclone sooner.

So, with 80%movement speed,
38*1.8*0.7/10 = 4.8 aps, with the slowest weapon ingame, with short cyclones, using 50%effective weapon damage, zero attack speed




your cookie cutter cyclone build ignore the prime cyclone mechanics as they do with coc-mechanics, like the unknowing cospris dogshits they are


shut
the
damn
mouth

no one reads your crap, could you please stick to wiping your balls against your cats ass? ty
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Feb 20 2019 07:31am
Quote (Froziph @ Feb 17 2019 05:09pm)
What, i think the build is great. The only thing i said is that tommys argument with CoC to Cospris is Volls to PCoC is trash


Your just missing the point he's trying to make.

He's just comparing the way cospris and coc gem function. He's saying cospris is garabage functionality wise compared to CoC. Cospris needs IAS to be good because it's per weapon swing, when CoC can max out with just a spell/attack that hits multiple times in 1 cast negating any real need for IAS and just taking advdantage of the mechanics of the main skill.

Same how Pcoc works 1pc per 1 cast regradless of #of hits vs volls which gets for each crit within that one cast.

It makes sense and he's right, doesn't mean cospris is bad or the build as a whole is bad. Hes solely comparing CoC Gem to cospris.
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