Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 18 2018 05:23pm)

A jab at the left makes sense, go for it

Disparaging posts about first nations in your country make no point other than that you have a problem with them.

Quote (SBD @ Oct 18 2018 02:24pm)

Generalization is a generalization.

Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 18 2018 05:26pm)

I find it interesting

when people attack my leftist views or we spar with political jabs for fun my first instinct isn't to attack poor white people irrelevant to the conversation

Quote (SBD @ Oct 18 2018 02:31pm)

Hey can't pick and choose when you're just gonna start grouping 50 % of the country. Gotta be open to anything.

Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 18 2018 05:32pm)

Yeah I guess republican vs democrat jabs in a troll thread attacking the left warrants you attacking the first nations in your own country

or something like that

Quote (SBD @ Oct 18 2018 02:33pm)

I like to take a deep jab and since we're still talking about it 6 pages later I'd say I hit pretty close to home.

Quote (Beowulf @ Oct 18 2018 05:35pm)

You've been taking deep jabs at those that share your home for months

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Soy is infamous for being high in phytoestrogens, which can result in lowered testosterone and elevated estrogen levels.

Quote (Scaly @ Oct 18 2018 06:24pm)

Utter bollocks.

Quote (Clinical studies show no effects of soy protein or isoflavones on reproductive hormones in men: results of a meta-analysis. @ PubMed)

Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To determine whether isoflavones exert estrogen-like effects in men by lowering bioavailable T through evaluation of the effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG), free T, and free androgen index (FAI) in men.

DESIGN:
PubMed and CAB Abstracts databases were searched through July 1, 2008, with use of controlled vocabulary specific to the databases, such as soy, isoflavones, genistein, phytoestrogens, red clover, androgen, testosterone, and SHBG. Peer-reviewed studies published in English were selected if [1] adult men consumed soy foods, isolated soy protein, or isoflavone extracts (from soy or red clover) and [2] circulating T, SHBG, free T, or calculated FAI was assessed. Data were extracted by two independent reviewers. Isoflavone exposure was abstracted directly from studies.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S):
Fifteen placebo-controlled treatment groups with baseline and ending measures were analyzed. In addition, 32 reports involving 36 treatment groups were assessed in simpler models to ascertain the results.

RESULT(S):
No significant effects of soy protein or isoflavone intake on T, SHBG, free T, or FAI were detected regardless of statistical model.

CONCLUSION(S):
The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.