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Aug 15 2018 08:16am
Quote (djman72 @ 15 Aug 2018 09:50)
Glad he was fired. Scumbag.

Of course, he'll be a hero to the left. I hear his crowdfunding page has exploded since his dishonorable ejection.

funny watching lefties donate to such noble causes. between donating to subversive wierdos who were fired for cause and donating to people who make up fake hate crimes the lefties are sure finding great uses to all the extra money they gained in this tremendous economy under drumpf
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there were 3 dossiers. there is only supposed to be 1.
the fact you are not alarmed by that only shows how biased you are to the subject

that 1 was handed off by Bruce Ohr. which has relation to the Clinton candidate.


how can you call a dossier completely fake when a lot of information has been verified in it?! (referring specifically to the Steele dossier)
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Aug 15 2018 08:17am
in all my news heres:

"United States: FBI dismissed for anti-trump texting sent to his mistress"

So IMO the only bias / fake news here is the OP & "fox news"

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Aug 15 2018 08:19am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Aug 15 2018 09:09am)
No. it's because Hilary was exonerated before she was even questioned.
Evidence destroyed under watch of Strzok.

Then immediately opening Trump/Russia investigation without any evidence and 2 fake dossiers.

All you're saying right now is "can't trust the FBI any more"
how many roffle waffles you guys gonna bring to this thread? seriously the "no u" is getting old


If you just put forth debunked or misleading talking points, we aren't going to have a real discussion.
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Aug 15 2018 08:22am
Quote (Horford @ Aug 15 2018 09:15am)
I know enough to know that NO FBI decisions were the direct results of Strzok's supposed political bias, as stated by Horowitz' report...


prove it. i've listed 2 quotes from the IG report that directly conflict with the last quote on the report that you have referred too.
i can list many many more. you cannot list even 1 more.
Having Clinton use Bleachbit before you show up to question her... that's not an action of concern?
he told them to do it before he got there...

here's the report. good luck lol
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

Quote (IceMage @ Aug 15 2018 09:19am)
If you just put forth debunked or misleading talking points, we aren't going to have a real discussion.

what point did you bring up for me to address?
oh right. republican/FBI conspiracy.

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Aug 15 2018 08:24am
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Quote (tagged4nothing @ Aug 15 2018 10:22am)
prove it. i've listed 2 quotes from the IG report that directly conflict with the last quote on the report that you have referred too.
i can list many many more. you cannot list even 1 more.
Having Clinton use Bleachbit before you show up to question her... that's not an action of concern?
he told them to do it before he got there...

here's the report. good luck lol
[URL=https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download]https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download[/URL]


sure i'll prove it (assuming that is you find Horowitz and Chris Wray to be credible)
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Earlier in his remarks, Horowitz said his report did not find evidence that FBI decisions directly resulted from bias, but he highlighted the damage their mistakes caused.


https://freebeacon.com/national-security/justice-dept-ig-not-confidence-strzok-acted-free-bias/

Quote (Christopher Wray)
I take this report very seriously, and we accept its findings and recommendations. It’s also important to note what the inspector general did not find. The report did not find any evidence of political bias or improper consideration actually impacting the investigation under review.


https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-director-christopher-wrays-statement-on-release-of-inspector-generals-report

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Aug 15 2018 08:30am
Quote (Horford @ Aug 15 2018 09:27am)

i gave you the IG report to read. you come back with statements from other ppl...
these statements are obviously a bit misleading, if you even read the quotes i gave you. they are directly in contradiction.
I have to get going to work, but i'll respond better to this when i get back.

i suggest you come up with more than this, this will be easy to dismantle.
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Aug 15 2018 08:43am
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 15 2018 09:03am)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-stepped-in-it-here-how-anti-trump-texts-ruined-the-career-of-the-fbis-go-to-agent/2018/08/13/eb1868be-9401-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html





He was by all accounts an excellent counter-intel agent who worked to investigate terrorists and spies. He made the mistake of expressing his political opinions on his work phone while serving on high profile political investigations. The only reason his conduct has damaged the reputation of the FBI so much is because we're living in a hyperpartisan environment where Republicans are seeking to undermine our institutions of justice for political points.


Kind of a big problem. Also, hilarious that you have this sentence in the same post as your "republicans seek to undermine institutions of justice for political points"

You're staring at an exact example of a democrat doing the exact thing you accuse (R) of doing.
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Aug 15 2018 08:46am
Quote (Horford @ Aug 15 2018 08:27am)


u can keep repeating this ad naeseum but the IG report found he prioritized the Trump investigation over the HRC investigation, and couldn't rule out bias in any way in making the decision. It's like saying "we dont have video of him on the crime scene, but have proof he was in the area with no alibi". it's a sizzling gun if not actively smoking.

that sentence you're leaning on like a crutch just says none of the decisions in the investigation themselves show bias, an example would be OK'ing some sort of surveillance without just cause to do so, or ignoring a tip on HRC without just cause.
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Aug 15 2018 09:02am
Quote (djman72 @ Aug 15 2018 09:43am)
Kind of a big problem. Also, hilarious that you have this sentence in the same post as your "republicans seek to undermine institutions of justice for political points"

You're staring at an exact example of a democrat doing the exact thing you accuse (R) of doing.


It's a problem in terms of appearances... but unless you want the FBI to monitor the private communications of every agent working on a political investigation, you're going to have to accept that those guys and gals might have negative opinions of the people they are investigating.

I don't know what you mean on the last point.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 15 2018 09:05am
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