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Jul 20 2018 03:53pm
I think California is having an identity crisis. They think they are a country, yet they get treated like the "state" they are, and can't seem to rationalize why this is so.



/e Oh, and their govt. is infested with democrats, or libtards, I can't tell the difference anymore.

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So it's the state forcing the developers to only develop luxury condos all over the fuckin' place. What policy exactly forces them to do this so I can fight it at the Capitol?


It pretty much is. When proposition 13 limits how much government can gouge the public in property taxation, it's entirely in the government's tax-base interest to make sure expensive properties are developed.
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It pretty much is. When proposition 13 limits how much government can gouge the public in property taxation, it's entirely in the government's tax-base interest to make sure expensive properties are developed.


Prop 13 is partially going down this year.
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I think California is having an identity crisis. They think they are a country, yet they get treated like the "state" they are, and can't seem to rationalize why this is so.



/e Oh, and their govt. is infested with democrats, or libtards, I can't tell the difference anymore.




What are you even trying to say?
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 20 2018 04:43pm)
What is this about negative cash flows during years of billions of dollar surpluses (https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article210903954.html)?


The total state revenue is $150 Billion and the expenses are $250 Billion. Those numbers are pretty obvious
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Prop 13 is partially going down this year.


Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. But the natural government response to property tax limitations of maximizing the property values of the limited space they have for development ensures "luxury condos" go up instead of affordable housing.
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What are you even trying to say?




I'm trying to say that this is why the middle class are becoming disillusioned and leaving in droves.

Sure each has their own specific reason, but I think disillusion is the over reaching reason. That and the fact that almost all of California's govt. is ONE party. I think this adds to the average person's feeling of helplessness, and disillusionment.
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Jul 20 2018 04:04pm
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The total state revenue is $150 Billion and the expenses are $250 Billion. Those numbers are pretty obvious


Um.

Ok, pal, a budget surplus means tax revenue this year are greater than budgeted expenditures this year.

A $250 billion liability spread over 30 years is $8.33 billion annually (I assume you're talking about the pension fund, because I have no idea where in your colon this number came from).

The budget is $131.7 billion this year. Expected revenues are $6.1 billion higher than the budget. That's called a surplus, bud.

If whackadoodle numbers like you posted seem obvious, you need to get your brain checked for a tumor.

Edit: holy shit are you trying to say that Medicaid, a federal program, should be added to the state's liabilities? Oh brother, you are looking at total spending and disregarding reality. You won't find a single conservative state with a budget surplus if you try to apply this logic, either. Texas, for example, comes in with $52 billion in revenue and $119 billion in government spending if you apply your faulty system of understanding.

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I'm trying to say that this is why the middle class are becoming disillusioned and leaving in droves.

Sure each has their own specific reason, but I think disillusion is the over reaching reason. That and the fact that almost all of California's govt. is ONE party. I think this adds to the average person's feeling of helplessness, and disillusionment.


It's because of income disparity and high rents. Capitalism and conservative policies like Prop 13 caused this.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 20 2018 06:04pm)
Um.

Ok, pal, a budget surplus means tax revenue this year are greater than budgeted expenditures this year.

A $250 billion liability spread over 30 years is $8.33 billion annually (I assume you're talking about the pension fund, because I have no idea where in your colon this number came from).

The budget is $131.7 billion this year. Expected revenues are $6.1 billion higher than the budget. That's called a surplus, bud.

If whackadoodle numbers like you posted seem obvious, you need to get your brain checked for a tumor.


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