I agree, but at the time ps3 was hyping the blu-ray player, blu-ray themselves were near infancy and costing $30 each. Similar to 4k now. By the time blu-rays won the format war and actually proliferated the market, there were stand alone cheaper blu-ray players. It is something to consider.

Do you guys think you'll make the upgrade? I'm considering once I buy my 4k tv

nope

I'm not ready to make the upgrade to these incremental consoles.
The 4k tv's I have my eye on are still too expensive.

This post was edited by ROM on Jun 27 2017 04:15pm

I will be probably day one. I bought my 4k tv last year in anticipation of the X so as to split up the cost. Even without a 4k tv it does add other features to 1080p but id still say unless you have a 4k tv its probably not worth the investment

Does this console finally include audio codecs to support good usb /wireless 7.1 Surround? having to plug a headset into the controller is quite inconvenient.
and its 2017.. did Microsoft finally build a battery into our controllers so we don't have to swap them out or pay for them separately?

I'm Xbox as well, but Sony has done things better for quite some time. I mean PS3 had their own wireless 7.1 Headset...you didn't have to spend 400$ on A50 TBS. that was more than 5 years ago... zero competition from Microsoft's end.

Rechargeable battery for the controller is subjective. Both have their advantages.

well the lack of audio codecs from Microsoft is quite pathetic.

and I still kind of see it one sided... you either buy cheap batteries and keep replacing them which just costs more money... or you put a rechargeable pack or batteries in... and keep recharging... which the ps4 controller already comes with but Microsoft makes you pay for additionally.

I was PS3/4 for a long time before switching to xbox.. I switched to xbox because my new place of work is full of people that use XBOX.

I installed a 500GB SSD directly into my ps4 console, it did not void the warranty.. the headphone selection for quality/price is 10-1 on xbox including (wireless 7.1) Games bought from the store on PS are not tax applicable, where Microsoft nails you for everything.

I do prefer the feel of the xbox controller over the PS4, I enjoy the XBOX OS for navigating, but Sony has done it right in every other way for along longer.

dont it feel kinda silly to spend 1300$ in console hardware over 4 years for checkerboard rendering and pc hand me downs tho?

What does the console need audio codecs for when the majority of people use a media server that transcodes?