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Aug 15 2018 05:17pm
Quote (Plaquelord @ Aug 15 2018 07:01pm)
so just manafort? anything else cracking?


Your president would be cracking if he ever sat down with Mueller.
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#2413
Aug 16 2018 12:39pm
Brennan: Trump worked with Russians and now he's desperate

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-pulls-brennans-clearance-links-move-russia-probe-57210395

aka "Brennan unchained" :rofl:
Honestly, if this guy is upset like that then it means something big is about to be released...
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Aug 16 2018 12:42pm
Brennan knows Trump is fucked.
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Aug 16 2018 04:28pm
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-staffer-tried-to-recruit-lobbyists-for-russian-oligarch-roman-abramovich
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Two lobbyists—speaking anonymously because of the sensitivity of the matter—told The Daily Beast that Gelbinovich approached them and told them he was trying to help Roman Abramovich, a Russian oligarch worth more than $11 billion, find a lobbyist to help keep him from being added to the Treasury Department’s sanctions list.

Gelbinovich confirmed this reporting


I like how stuff like this is the least bit surprising now lol. He was a low level staffer.... but still....

Abramovich, is a "close ally of Putin" according to Kremlin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky.
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#2416
Aug 16 2018 06:01pm
I've just been assuming Manafort would be convicted and the real fight would start with appeals
But the jury requests today don't look so great for prosecutors. I'm curious if there exist statistics anywhere about what % of juries vote to convict after requesting a definition for 'reasonable doubt'. Because I know there are statistics like juries voting 2-3x more likely guilty if they have uncorrected, erroneous beliefs on what 'reasonable doubt' is during mock trials.
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Aug 16 2018 06:04pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 16 2018 08:01pm)
I've just been assuming Manafort would be convicted and the real fight would start with appeals
But the jury requests today don't look so great for prosecutors. I'm curious if there exist statistics anywhere about what % of juries vote to convict after requesting a definition for 'reasonable doubt'. Because I know there are statistics like juries voting 2-3x more likely guilty if they have uncorrected, erroneous beliefs on what 'reasonable doubt' is during mock trials.


Its nearly impossible to convict on money laundering in Manafort’s situation. Like the erroneous excuse used in the Hillary situation it is nigh impossible to prove intent.
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Aug 16 2018 08:51pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 16 2018 08:01pm)
I've just been assuming Manafort would be convicted and the real fight would start with appeals
But the jury requests today don't look so great for prosecutors. I'm curious if there exist statistics anywhere about what % of juries vote to convict after requesting a definition for 'reasonable doubt'. Because I know there are statistics like juries voting 2-3x more likely guilty if they have uncorrected, erroneous beliefs on what 'reasonable doubt' is during mock trials.


I'm reading on some twitter feed that (to quote from) "Manafort's team used a damn charr with about 20 levels of 'guilty' on it. Likely a tactic to confuse jurors and it seemed to work"
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#2419
Aug 16 2018 08:53pm


All I see in the last 100 or so posts in this topic, is a bunch of snowflakes wishing on a star.
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Aug 16 2018 10:13pm
Quote (Horford @ Aug 16 2018 10:51pm)
I'm reading on some twitter feed that (to quote from) "Manafort's team used a damn charr with about 20 levels of 'guilty' on it. Likely a tactic to confuse jurors and it seemed to work"


Chart* oops. (Didn't copy/paste the quote)
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