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Dec 27 2017 09:14pm
Quote (Skinned @ Dec 28 2017 09:05am)
You seem to be clueless about actual Church history. The Council of Trent and Nice happened lol.


The only thing I'm clueless about is who you are. I have never seen you before, ever. The only thing going through my mind when I read your post is: "Who is this guy whom I have never seen in here before?"

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 28 2017 09:21am)
God knowing that people are garbage at communicating, and God being God could cut out the middle man with zero effort because he's God.


The key word is 'could'. However he didn't. Instead he decided to send his son to Earth so that we could understand God. It is easy to use Jesus as an example when explaining the Gospel to a little child.

Even Paul tells us to imitate him as he imitates Jesus. Jesus himself used Parables to explain the Kingdom of Heaven and what God is like. This is how we can understand God as he has revealed himself to us.

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Dec 27 2017 09:44pm
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The key word is 'could'. However he didn't. Instead he decided to send his son to Earth so that we could understand God. It is easy to use Jesus as an example when explaining the Gospel to a little child.

Even Paul tells us to imitate him as he imitates Jesus. Jesus himself used Parables to explain the Kingdom of Heaven and what God is like. This is how we can understand God as he has revealed himself to us.


You are really resistant to critically viewing your beliefs.

This is the third time you've done everything possible to change the subject.
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Dec 27 2017 10:34pm
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You are really resistant to critically viewing your beliefs.

This is the third time you've done everything possible to change the subject.


I thought it was a good point he made
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Dec 27 2017 10:51pm
Quote (caswallen @ Dec 27 2017 10:34pm)
I thought it was a good point he made


It really wasn't.

His defense of God's method only works if God is incompetent, or incapable. When you're working with a God that can change hearts anything short of beaming information into people's heads is a garbage method.

Also sending his son isn't authoring the bible, so it's wholly irrelevant.

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Quote (CPK001 @ 27 Dec 2017 23:53)
Proof? That was merely a question. At least I can spell 'condemned'.


Condamned was fine... :lol:

You arent real christians anyway, just dangerous sects thatshould not be allowed to exist.
Exactly the same than extremists in islam or jewish religions: leading to violence and destruction.


what the fuck is wrong in your head




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It really wasn't.

His defense of God's method only works if God is incompetent, or incapable. When you're working with a God that can change hearts anything short of beaming information into people's heads is a garbage method.

Also sending his son isn't authoring the bible, so it's wholly irrelevant.


The topic of free will:

God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot. If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata-of creatures that worked like machines-would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free.

Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently He thought it worth the risk. Perhaps we feel inclined to disagree with Him. But there is a difficulty about disagreeing with God. He is the source from which all your reasoning power comes: you could not be right and He wrong any more than a stream can rise higher than its own source. When you are arguing against Him you are arguing against the very power that makes you able to argue at all: it is like cutting off the branch you are sitting on. If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will-that is, for making a live world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings-then we may take it it is worth paying.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 28 2017 02:55pm)
Condamned was fine... :lol:

You arent real christians anyway, just dangerous sects thatshould not be allowed to exist.
Exactly the same than extremists in islam or jewish religions: leading to violence and destruction.


what the fuck is wrong in your head

https://www.lesalternativescatholiques.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Raptor-Jesus-the-no-life-club-25785940-610-488.jpg


No it wasn't. The internet disagrees with you.

Also, how narcissistic you are. You take your own dangerous sect and you try to tell us that we are doing what you, yourself do.

You tell us that we should not be allowed to exist even though you do that very thing you claim we do.

What is wrong in my head is that I know what is wrong in my head. I fully acknowledge it and am aware of it...the sin.

The problem with you is that you do not know what is wrong with your head. You are part of the problem, leading us to violence and destruction.

Only in The Bible, specifically Colossians 3:8, does it say - "But now you must also rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips."

So tell me how that message makes us lead the world to violence and destruction?
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Dec 29 2017 12:37pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Dec 28 2017 02:34am)
The topic of free will:

God created things which had free will. That means creatures which can go either wrong or right. Some people think they can imagine a creature which was free but had no possibility of going wrong; I cannot.


So God has no free will?
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Dec 29 2017 05:35pm
Universe a result of random forces? Not likely

http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/the-unive...es-not-likely/
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Universe a result of random forces? Not likely

http://www.wnd.com/2017/12/the-unive...es-not-likely/


Strong link.
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Dec 29 2017 10:31pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 30 2017 04:37am)
So God has no free will?


If God has no free will then who would he be a slave to?
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