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Quote (duffman316 @ May 13 2021 12:51pm)
Remind me what was so bad about jimmy carter


He was an incompetent administrator because he tried to micromanage situations. People fault him for stagflation, being a poor negotiator for the Iranian Hostage Crisis, etc.

Jimmy Carter is a good dude who has done a lot of charity. He was also one of our smarter Presidents. Those qualities don't make you a good President though and he is ranked in the bottom half for good reason.
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May 13 2021 02:28pm
Quote (duffman316 @ May 13 2021 02:51pm)
Remind me what was so bad about jimmy carter


he was a peanut farmer, and since George Washington Carver peanuts are black culture. His farming was pure unadulterated cultural appropriation. Every nut he pulled from the ground is basically spitting on the face of a black infant while wearing a red hat that says Make Darkies Slaves Again. truly a vile man.
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May 13 2021 02:29pm
Quote (duffman316 @ May 13 2021 03:51pm)
Remind me what was so bad about jimmy carter


stagflation and a lack of presence on the world stage that let communism spread especially in China.

you had to study the economy of the 70's to truly understand.

even Obama never had to resort to the "malaise" rhetoric to describe the perpetual dread of secular decline that his admin. oversaw.
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May 13 2021 02:34pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 13 2021 10:38am)
Use of "Deep state" has been geared towards the FBI and other intelligence services which Trump and others claimed were undermining his presidency. It became very popular during the Mueller investigation. That is in line with how the phrase has traditionally been used before Trump, i.e. to refer to an entrenched bureaucracy that subverts proper state authority in pursuit of its own agenda.

As I read Black's point, he's questioning why people so readily believe (often conspiratorial) allegations about the military industrial complex, but refuse to believe that those situations can develop in other, similar settings. Trump's allegations as to the extent of forces supposedly arrayed against him is almost certainly not true, just as allegations that the MIC actively precipitated the Iraq war is not true. But all that proves is that extreme, simplistic takes are normally incorrect. It does not mean that the military industrial complex lacks power, or that the intelligence services are not manipulating and shaping narratives behind the scene.


You're back-filling. There is a group of intelligence officials and bureaucrats pushing pollicy in specific directions. That is not what "deep state" means when conspiratorial types are using it. They are using it as a catch-all for everything from that to Democrats being pedophiles and even for totally normal election procedures that they perceive as being malicious and meant to hurt Trump.

If the "deep state" claims were limited to what you're talking about nobody would have batted an eye at the claim.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 13 2021 02:39pm
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Quote (Metalwise4u @ May 14 2021 07:45am)


This is just smear.
I believe Trump had the most covers on time magazine out of any person
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Quote (MSX98 @ May 13 2021 05:08pm)


I have 8 packets of Chilck Fil A sauce in my fridge.

I'm ready for the chickenpocalypse.
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Quote (Metalwise4u @ 13 May 2021 21:45)


How exactly was Trump an "usurper"? :lol:
Anyway, what a comically vilifying cover.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ May 13 2021 12:40pm)


I don't even think it's a "who's in office in the US" timing thing, so much as a "Both the Israeli and Palestinian elections are coming up soon, and the incumbents both need a distraction" timing thing.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ 13 May 2021 23:23)
I don't even think it's a "who's in office in the US" timing thing, so much as a "Both the Israeli and Palestinian elections are coming up soon, and the incumbents both need a distraction" timing thing.


Yes, that's pretty much it.

See also the explanation I had written earlier today:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67278491&f=119&p=570092408

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