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Aug 24 2012 07:38am
Quote (c00kie_m0nster @ Aug 24 2012 12:48pm)
Love ur builds(d2 also) can u put a video of him running?

thx!
srry no have videos/make videos!
mebe i will in a few weeks, since i have a new PC!
Quote (Silence[px] @ Aug 24 2012 01:19pm)
Are you sure? I remember double stacking it in 1.03 (cast, wait for CD, sac, cast, sac).

was testing it yesterday, and it not stacks,
or else i would have 30sec*4dogs*5%ed = +600%total damage!

just tested it again, it even is reset after secrafice again
so first you get a +20% bonus when secrafice 4 dogs
and if secrafice 2 dogs just after, it reset itself to +10% damage
same like soul harvest

atm holding down the secrafice button whenever i not walk, and manualy spam zombie dogs every 3 sec!
its crazy!
i can put away spiders atm, nn it any more! so will test some new skills setups later on!
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Aug 24 2012 09:59am
Btw, how you guys handle with cc elites? I guess that is the question to wd as class, not just this build. I often get pulled by vortex, use spirit walk, and then when it is on cooldown, get vortex'd again ;/ same goes with other cc, such as jailer.
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Aug 24 2012 01:35pm
got 3s skull grasp too, much better now

using this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#SVUdTY!dhW!YYZYZZ

with good enough gear, it can just melee mobs in a3, this 1.04 version got much easier
with 0 timer, you can detonate zombie before they fully emerge from ground, pretty much spam, and then i guess attack speed may come into play
it that cause it outdamages bears heavily
my current damage is 65k (char screen dps), crits from dogs up to ~300
using 1150 socketed spear with 1200 base damage
but rest of gear is kind of average, low ~30% crit chance

gruesome feast may be good choice as damage passive, 50% inteligence is vastly superior to 20% ed, problem is this stuff is usually up AFTER you kill champ pack, and you need it before.. 10s too short to transition well between monster groups

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Aug 24 2012 03:21pm
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got 3s skull grasp too, much better now

using this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#SVUdTY!dhW!YYZYZZ

with good enough gear, it can just melee mobs in a3, this 1.04 version got much easier
with 0 timer, you can detonate zombie before they fully emerge from ground, pretty much spam, and then i guess attack speed may come into play
it that cause it outdamages bears heavily
my current damage is 65k (char screen dps), crits from dogs up to ~300
using 1150 socketed spear with 1200 base damage
but rest of gear is kind of average, low ~30% crit chance

gruesome feast may be good choice as damage passive, 50% inteligence is vastly superior to 20% ed, problem is this stuff is usually up AFTER you kill champ pack, and you need it before.. 10s too short to transition well between monster groups


intresting setup m8! thx for sharing
some evil heal skills you got there! baba would be jellie!
are you at 2 sec cooldown atm, or above? ofc at 0-2seconds the rune on secrafice you pick is best!
you use some LOH? couse the pyrogheist(33%loh per missle)? i myself was testing searing locusts, but its not adding huge!
verry intresting tank sks you get there! i gess arround 40k life you have?
i surly test the ''for the master'' rune later one, even the name of it i like!

and ohh yes, even more evil heal, at 0sec cooldown, if stacking ias!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Aug 24 2012 03:23pm
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Aug 24 2012 03:44pm
I use just health globes from dogs. You can detonate them and heal without mobs around. Was doing ghom and just detonated dogs few times, bam 3 health globes.
I got 20y pickup radius because i geared this char for other spec, and that stat just left on my gear, turns to be real helper. You can stand far from dogs, and still insta-grab globes once they appear. Massive healing.

This is also the way to get cheap gear. Instead of expensive mitigation gear (resists), get more stuff with vit and life. EHP will be same as on really well gearek 1k all res wd, but much cheaper. If you get some slots without res, but massive stats (such as chest, pants, shoulder ect). Some armors with 40ish resists, so they are cheaper, and massive health. I got 50k, but my gear is random, i just picked <1m pieces from ah.
Health globes dont care how much health you got so, it is kind of unique way to heal, and gear for it is relatively cheap.

Played bit co-op, and with barb shout i can melee shit no prob, so it is matter of stats, better items and this will become possible without barb buff. If you get 0cd, and can tank elites, gg no re, 1.1k% damage spam in the face about 2x/s with good ias. Best dps in the game.

What is bit problematic is to get good dps. Offhand sucks, helm will most likely suck if it has to be 9s timer reduction (most likely without crit chance). To pull good dps with these penalties you need real good crit armors that are left, so 10 gloves, 4 rings, 6 bracers, quite expensive if you also want pickup radius on them. And crit bonus plays massive role in dps of wd, which has really high inteligence thanks to soul harvest. Most people cant afford crit bonus + socket weapon, so even adding 30% from ring improves dps dramatically (because you are working on relatively low base crit bonus). In comparision, if you have dual wield nado barb with 500+% crit bonus, addint 20% more doesnt change dps that much. For wd it is much bigger difference.

also lol i made mistake in my spec, not using pyrogheist, using grasp of the dead
dunno wtf did i paste, i had few calculators opened, and it is was not the one i wanted

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#ZVUdXY!dhW!YcaYYZ




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Aug 24 2012 04:06pm
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I use just health globes from dogs. You can detonate them and heal without mobs around. Was doing ghom and just detonated dogs few times, bam 3 health globes.
I got 20y pickup radius because i geared this char for other spec, and that stat just left on my gear, turns to be real helper. You can stand far from dogs, and still insta-grab globes once they appear. Massive healing.

This is also the way to get cheap gear. Instead of expensive mitigation gear (resists), get more stuff with vit and life. EHP will be same as on really well gearek 1k all res wd, but much cheaper. If you get some slots without res, but massive stats (such as chest, pants, shoulder ect). Some armors with 40ish resists, so they are cheaper, and massive health. I got 50k, but my gear is random, i just picked <1m pieces from ah.
Health globes dont care how much health you got so, it is kind of unique way to heal, and gear for it is relatively cheap.


thouse purple dogs looks even more evil!
just tested it, and yes, the globes are even picked up when not moving
another witch doctor pick-up-radius bonus
you can stack this to 120k life gained per globe!/56pickup gards

this bild is getting a nice endgoal!

we are talking 100k life heal per sec!
its getting better every minute of teoriecraft/reading/testing!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Aug 24 2012 04:21pm
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Aug 24 2012 04:26pm
an other funny build that I have to try.. hehe!
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Aug 24 2012 04:39pm
btw does +health to healing globes work with "for the master" rune od zombie dogs? would be cool if it did
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Aug 24 2012 05:11pm
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btw does +health to healing globes work with "for the master" rune od zombie dogs? would be cool if it did


''for the master'' is the 6202life gained for every secraficed zombie dog rune on secrafice
thats 24.8k life healed in a click, allowed every 3 sec atm!

but for ''final gift'' rune on zombie dog, the 15%chance to create a health globe per dog,
i would asume, it works like any health globe, or it would be a bug!


+/-
lets say i get 80k life heal globes(and 100k+wd life), what would be better? the 35%chance to create new zombie dog on sacrefice(next of kin rune), or the ''for the master rune'' at 3sec dog cooldown?
35% more heal globes
4dogs*0.15chance to create globes*0.35chance at exta dogs*80k/3sec = 16800life per sec ''next of kin rune on sacrefice'' (spike heal income/but 1.4less dogs to blow up for damage)
vs
4dog*6202/3sec = 8269heal per sec ''for the master'' (more steady heal income)

i gess you need some sick wd life, to let the ''next of kin'' heal better then ''for the master''
but if you do, you get almost double heal!


e/
blizzard is failling again!
if i type 11k health globes in the AH
they list all lower health globe
same like the old life per spirit spent AH fail!
who needs 6 item stats surch, if they fail 1 item stats surch!

This post was edited by Tommyvv on Aug 24 2012 05:28pm
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Aug 24 2012 08:22pm
Quote (young2093 @ Aug 22 2012 04:37pm)
What? To NOT nerf this would be unacceptable ROFL.


you should get rid of your D2 curse skill avatar then. Diablo is about OP builds. You sound like a WoW nerd faggot LOL
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