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Oct 27 2017 05:27am
Quote (Braxton11 @ Oct 26 2017 10:43pm)
My current lifts are

225 x 5 squat
255 x 5 deadlift
135 x 7 bench

5'10, 159 lbs.

Pretty happy with my numbers for my size. If you want to call me a person who doesn't lift, that's cool though.

As someone in a DPT program, I care way more about mobility and form than numbers.


obviously! So you made some progress since you bneched 1 plate for one ;)
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Oct 27 2017 09:46am
Quote (LoQ @ Oct 27 2017 07:27am)
obviously! So you made some progress since you bneched 1 plate for one ;)



Not sure if that's a knock on me or not, but I've never really cared that much about bench haha.
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Oct 27 2017 01:35pm
Quote (Braxton11 @ Oct 27 2017 05:46pm)
Not sure if that's a knock on me or not, but I've never really cared that much about bench haha.


nah, i mean you really did something with it! :D
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Quote (LoQ @ Oct 26 2017 12:07pm)
I just absoultelty love that you tend to point out form and mobility every now and then. Don't get me wrong, I like your persona, but it's just such a stereotypical situation where someone who doesn't even lift has always something to say



How does his lifting numbers have anything to do with his ability to coach an individual?
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Quote (LoQ @ 26 Oct 2017 15:07)
I just absoultelty love that you tend to point out form and mobility every now and then. Don't get me wrong, I like your persona, but it's just such a stereotypical situation where someone who doesn't even lift has always something to say


Some of the best personal trainers and strength coaches I've met/worked with (and here we're literally talking in the hundreds) don't have impressive lifts. Some of them just don't practice what they preach, or some have a different approach, and others had injuries or physiological impediments, while others are research-oriented. I think time under the bar is something you can't replace, but not everyone spends time under the bar to understand strength.

If you look at professional athletes, a lot of them have pretty weak lifts--basketball, my favourite sport, is a prime example. Yet these guys can do stuff that none of us can do. And they're functionally strong as fk.

By mid high school I ran into a serious training dilemma. I was physically just as capable as most professional athletes (it was the 90s, but hey), but I wasn't performing at their level. This bothered me because I was already competing with some of them, and I was semi-interested in going pro in sports. It turns out that I was spending way too much time training (lifting, sprints, playing games but not training specific skills) and way too little time on skill acquisition. Once I shifted toward that orientation, I got better performative athletic results.

The corollary is that if you're teaching strength, time under the bar is absolutely a MAJOR component of what you bring to the table. But knowledge and skill acquisition is, in part, a different animal. It's complicated in the str&fitness industry because a lot of guys get ahead on results via illegal drugs. I'm NOT moralizing about that, but I am saying that I've known guys who don't know sh*t about lifting who were repping 400+ on bench.

Just my 2 cents.

This post was edited by RewtheBrave on Oct 28 2017 07:15pm
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Quote (RewtheBrave @ Oct 28 2017 09:14pm)
Some of the best personal trainers and strength coaches I've met/worked with (and here we're literally talking in the hundreds) don't have impressive lifts. Some of them just don't practice what they preach, or some have a different approach, and others had injuries or physiological impediments, while others are research-oriented. I think time under the bar is something you can't replace, but not everyone spends time under the bar to understand strength.

If you look at professional athletes, a lot of them have pretty weak lifts--basketball, my favourite sport, is a prime example. Yet these guys can do stuff that none of us can do. And they're functionally strong as fk.

By mid high school I ran into a serious training dilemma. I was physically just as capable as most professional athletes (it was the 90s, but hey), but I wasn't performing at their level. This bothered me because I was already competing with some of them, and I was semi-interested in going pro in sports. It turns out that I was spending way too much time training (lifting, sprints, playing games but not training specific skills) and way too little time on skill acquisition. Once I shifted toward that orientation, I got better performative athletic results.

The corollary is that if you're teaching strength, time under the bar is absolutely a MAJOR component of what you bring to the table. But knowledge and skill acquisition is, in part, a different animal. It's complicated in the str&fitness industry because a lot of guys get ahead on results via illegal drugs. I'm NOT moralizing about that, but I am saying that I've known guys who don't know sh*t about lifting who were repping 400+ on bench.

Just my 2 cents.


there is minimal skill acquisition in powerlifting. most top level powerlifters have shitty squat and deadlift technique
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Oct 29 2017 07:39pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 29 2017 04:02pm)
there is minimal skill acquisition in powerlifting. most top level powerlifters have shitty squat and deadlift technique


Oxymoron alert

If they are top level, they are lifting in the best way their body moves, painfree, and that technique takes a lot of time to learn and master

Their technique isnt shitty, its as close to perfect for their body type


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Quote (Excusemem8 @ Oct 29 2017 09:39pm)
Oxymoron alert

If they are top level, they are lifting in the best way their body moves, painfree, and that technique takes a lot of time to learn and master

Their technique isnt shitty, its as close to perfect for their body type


no, its pretty shitty.
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Oct 29 2017 09:02pm
Quote (cloudkicker @ Oct 29 2017 06:59pm)
no, its pretty shitty.


I bet if they had you coaching them you could correct their shitty form and they would go from top level to world record holders
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Quote (Excusemem8 @ Oct 29 2017 11:02pm)
I bet if they had you coaching them you could correct their shitty form and they would go from top level to world record holders


i bet ur right
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