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with max /ar life sc's you dont need ar on rings (but its good if you can get such rings)

also you can always enchant with dlimb, and finally you dont even need wizzy dracks+gores is good enough

on switch most of the time is useful to use 2 doooms just to flash those running sins camping in their trap fields, to take out those town guarding faith bowazons,and the fc javas.
also if a smiter starts bming with lifetap go ahead and take out the 2 dooms and gg him.
by using 2 dooms one looses only +2 to wc's which isnt really a big loss if one knows how to duel
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I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.
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Quote (orosake1991 @ Fri, Apr 28 2006, 10:38pm)
I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.


you can do angelic ring +amulet and ravenfrost , your mana will be alil higher and if you enchant youll have decent ar to hit high def players.
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Quote (orosake1991 @ Fri, Apr 28 2006, 10:38pm)
I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.


you can do angelic ring +amulet and ravenfrost , your mana will be alil higher and if you enchant youll have decent ar to hit high def players.


nah, 2x ravens+hl has better avg dmg. the whole point of angelics is to get enough ar to outperform highlords, which is why you use both rings. using 5x 17 mana scs is the best thing i've done. as a bonus you get 700 mana with ravens in pubs. no more dying to shitty cs zons etc cause lack of mana, not to mention that smiters are 500 times easier in 1v1.
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Quote (GIFF @ Sun, Apr 30 2006, 09:52am)
Quote (mainaman @ Sat, Apr 29 2006, 06:52pm)
Quote (orosake1991 @ Fri, Apr 28 2006, 10:38pm)
I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.


you can do angelic ring +amulet and ravenfrost , your mana will be alil higher and if you enchant youll have decent ar to hit high def players.


nah, 2x ravens+hl has better avg dmg. the whole point of angelics is to get enough ar to outperform highlords, which is why you use both rings. using 5x 17 mana scs is the best thing i've done. as a bonus you get 700 mana with ravens in pubs. no more dying to shitty cs zons etc cause lack of mana, not to mention that smiters are 500 times easier in 1v1.


WTH? You are using 5x 20/17's, 4x 5/5's, rest 32020's? Now mm, that sounds intresting, the only thing you lose is like 10 dmg and ~500 AR. You think that's worth it? Gosh I wish I had enough wealth to go grab 5x 20/17's and rest 20/20's (ar/life), but that's a bit too much.

Also, a BvC can be turned into a BvA if you get ~80-90 base dex and use ebotdz+arreat+angelics, this should result in ~185 dex with ebotdz, enough for 74% block or so @ 91. Without ebotdz, you will have ~155 dex, enough for 60% block. I was thinking about replacing the dual dooms on my barb with 2x +3 wc daggers, one with lifetap charges, to gain more stash space, and then remake my barb into a ~90 base dex one, so that he will have ~2xx less life but max block. Pros: Looks cooler, should beat BvB's, makes Bowazons a lot easier Cons: Less life, Less free stash space, a little harder time versus certain casters.

This post was edited by olba on Apr 30 2006 08:35am
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Apr 30 2006 09:48am
Bump for this great guide.

VS other barbs you really should go with angelic amu ring, and one ravenfrost. The DS from Highlord's ain't gonna kick in if you don't hit him lol.
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I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.


you can do angelic ring +amulet and ravenfrost , your mana will be alil higher and if you enchant youll have decent ar to hit high def players.


nah, 2x ravens+hl has better avg dmg. the whole point of angelics is to get enough ar to outperform highlords, which is why you use both rings. using 5x 17 mana scs is the best thing i've done. as a bonus you get 700 mana with ravens in pubs. no more dying to shitty cs zons etc cause lack of mana, not to mention that smiters are 500 times easier in 1v1.


WTH? You are using 5x 20/17's, 4x 5/5's, rest 32020's? Now mm, that sounds intresting, the only thing you lose is like 10 dmg and ~500 AR. You think that's worth it? Gosh I wish I had enough wealth to go grab 5x 20/17's and rest 20/20's (ar/life), but that's a bit too much.

Also, a BvC can be turned into a BvA if you get ~80-90 base dex and use ebotdz+arreat+angelics, this should result in ~185 dex with ebotdz, enough for 74% block or so @ 91. Without ebotdz, you will have ~155 dex, enough for 60% block. I was thinking about replacing the dual dooms on my barb with 2x +3 wc daggers, one with lifetap charges, to gain more stash space, and then remake my barb into a ~90 base dex one, so that he will have ~2xx less life but max block. Pros: Looks cooler, should beat BvB's, makes Bowazons a lot easier Cons: Less life, Less free stash space, a little harder time versus certain casters.


i use 5 scs with 17 mana, 5 scs with 11 lightres, rest 3max/20ar.

This post was edited by GIFF on Apr 30 2006 01:50pm
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Bump for this great guide.

VS other barbs you really should go with angelic amu ring, and one ravenfrost. The DS from Highlord's ain't gonna kick in if you don't hit him lol.


may i ask why you choose to use 1 angelic ring instead of 2? mana problems? ^^

This post was edited by GIFF on Apr 30 2006 01:53pm
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i`d just use couple 15/70s to avoid having problems with mana, you wont lose much dmg and ar but u`ll have 3oo+ more mana with just 2 scs
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Quote (orosake1991 @ Fri, Apr 28 2006, 10:38pm)
I'm actually going to make this. Thanks, its much better than the shitty oh I know what skills to use guides out there. I might need a few helps on desyncing, but I think I got it down.

Looking at this build I'm assuming that I'll be chugging mana pots ever so often.

Also do you need 37 3/20/20s? I might be able to get 20/20s, or only a few 3/20/20s, on useast they cost a bit more, and poof alot. Its like 2 sojs for a legit one motz.gif .

Thanks.


get 2 10 fcr rings with 80+mana
my barb uses such rings and he has 700+ mana with caster gear,and much less with melee but there you dont need as much mana ...
also i'd add for pubs its good to use trang gloves and thus able to use tgods for exampleor dungo but still reatain the 37 fcr break point.
ofcourse dracks are the best gloves to use though
and


use a few life/mana scs. 300 mana with angelics sucks ass.


you can do angelic ring +amulet and ravenfrost , your mana will be alil higher and if you enchant youll have decent ar to hit high def players.


nah, 2x ravens+hl has better avg dmg. the whole point of angelics is to get enough ar to outperform highlords, which is why you use both rings. using 5x 17 mana scs is the best thing i've done. as a bonus you get 700 mana with ravens in pubs. no more dying to shitty cs zons etc cause lack of mana, not to mention that smiters are 500 times easier in 1v1.


against opponents with more than 7.5k def you better use angelics as you do more dmg.
and i use my fcr gear to seal with any type of zon and if they bm enough i use 2 dooms end of story
and also exactly how you get enough fcr when you use 2 ravens?
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