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Deadlifting 630, running half marathons, trekking Nepal for 4 weeks. Still hunting and fishing every weekend. Life good.

That's where Im at. Guess the vaccine didn't kill me along with every single gym goer I know.


Yes daily essentials of nutrition, blood flow and strength is great.

My concern is more so the whole fake pandemic to not pay a international debt with business interests through pharmas.
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Yes daily essentials of nutrition, blood flow and strength is great.

My concern is more so the whole fake pandemic to not pay a international debt with business interests through pharmas.


I certainly did not and don't agree with all the lockdowns. It's why I had to get vaccinated to begin with. Those of us that live extremely remote with only airline access such as the Canadians in many parts of the NWT and NU we were not able to travel without proof of, meaning no ability to see family for two years unless we did get a vaccine.

I didn't agree with CERB, or many of the other financial offerings to businesses during COVID. The administration of it anyways.
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causes unknown

great book, irrefutable proof as well.

friends of friends are in it, dead from the vaccine.

not all of us were as lucky as we are.


You could also say that to the people who died from COVID that contracted it when potentially it could have been prevented right, so it goes both ways.

I am pretty conservative but given the general population, more than 83% in Canada received vaccination I am certainly not going to shit on those that did or say they're weak or weak minded, Its the vast majority of everyone.
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Jan 29 2024 12:37pm
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You could also say that to the people who died from COVID that contracted it when potentially it could have been prevented right, so it goes both ways.

I am pretty conservative but given the general population, more than 83% in Canada received vaccination I am certainly not going to shit on those that did or say they're weak or weak minded, Its the vast majority of everyone.


ah i dont mind voicing my opinion
all the science shows it was the wrong choice, in general

So i have no issue saying it was not worth it,
and i took it for work too, which i regret.

your % is skewed mostly because that was a forced upon vaccination for almost the majority.
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ah i dont mind voicing my opinion
all the science shows it was the wrong choice, in general

So i have no issue saying it was not worth it,
and i took it for work too, which i regret.

your % is skewed mostly because that was a forced upon vaccination for almost the majority.


Hindsight is always going to be 20/20 though. While a part of the population might have felt forced, like us in highly remote spots up here, I don't think that actually does reflect the majority. I think the majority of people rely on the attempts of medical professionals to relay real time information and it suggested that it was the best course of action. And frankly, we do that for everything, we rely on professional guidance for things well outside the scope of our knowledge because while humans might have some breath of knowledge we do not posses much depth of knowledge and that's where you have specialists.

Do we learn from this, hard to say since humans are goldfish and we seem destined to repeat similar mistakes.

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Hindsight is always going to be 20/20 though. While a part of the population might have felt forced, like us in highly remote spots up here, I don't think that actually does reflect the majority. I think the majority of people rely on the attempts of medical professionals to relay real time information and it suggested that it was the best course of action. And frankly, we do that for everything, we rely on professional guidance for things well outside the scope of our knowledge because while humans might have some breath of knowledge we do not posses much depth of knowledge and that's where you have specialists.


yeah but we all know there was a big part of the medical community who was TRYING to warn us the issues at hand and the difference here was they were silenced via the VACCINE companies, and our gvt.

those are red flags, and frankly probably why so many people woke up to the idea of it not being the best course of action.

if you get silenced for questioning science, its not longer science.

but thats in the past, and i dont really like to dwell on it, no reason to.

hopefully going ahead we'll see better data and better from our science community.
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yeah but we all know there was a big part of the medical community who was TRYING to warn us the issues at hand and the difference here was they were silenced via the VACCINE companies, and our gvt.

those are red flags, and frankly probably why so many people woke up to the idea of it not being the best course of action.

if you get silenced for questioning science, its not longer science.

but thats in the past, and i dont really like to dwell on it, no reason to.

hopefully going ahead we'll see better data and better from our science community.


To my knowledge the majority of professionals to this day are still recommending the booster / vaccination. I don't think that's changed. For instance, I am headed to Nepal and because we don't have a hospital or healthcare here I had to get a consultation and a prescription written through consultation south where I can then pick up things like Dimox in AB on my out of country. Its still recommended to get a booster before leaving the country.

While you might have red flags and things like that, there's that for nearly everything because there's almost always an opposition, especially when you go down the "forcing" road. You will naturally always get resistance down that road.

Id be willing to bet my lunch that nearly every Physician on here could link you to a plethora of studies that show effectiveness. And I say they could because yes I could google effectiveness and get tons of studies that show it but I don't really have the depth of knowledge needed to fully understand them. Much like you probably don't either unless you're within the medical field, and so really people can spread any type of information they want, they can say it was or was not and depending on what camp you want to be in you can sit in that camp all day long and link what you perceive to be relevant to your argument, anyone can do that.

I know personally I am not getting anything again, but really I have no honest medical explanation for why, I guess I am just in the camp that does not want to be forced to do things, since I don't feel any risk tied to my health in taking it, I just don't want to.

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All a sick pharma marketing scheme and blackmail of China's loan imo
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To my knowledge the majority of professionals to this day are still recommending the booster / vaccination. I don't think that's changed. For instance, I am headed to Nepal and because we don't have a hospital or healthcare here I had to get a consultation and a prescription written through consultation south where I can then pick up things like Dimox in AB on my out of country. Its still recommended to get a booster before leaving the country.

While you might have red flags and things like that, there's that for nearly everything because there's almost always an opposition, especially when you go down the "forcing" road. You will naturally always get resistance down that road.

Id be willing to bet my lunch that nearly every Physician on here could link you to a plethora of studies that show effectiveness. And I say they could because yes I could google effectiveness and get tons of studies that show it but I don't really have the depth of knowledge needed to fully understand them. Much like you probably don't either unless you're within the medical field, and so really people can spread any type of information they want, they can say it was or was not and depending on what camp you want to be in you can sit in that camp all day long and link what you perceive to be relevant to your argument, anyone can do that.

I know personally I am not getting anything again, but really I have no honest medical explanation for why, I guess I am just in the camp that does not want to be forced to do things, since I don't feel any risk tied to my health in taking it, I just don't want to.


No the red flags were just an indicator.

Literally all the science shows it’s detrimental to your health, not aiding whatsoever at all.

Alex Berenson sued twitter in federal court for being banned for spreading “misinformation” about the vaccine.

He won that law suit, proved everything he supplied was true and factual.
His sub stack is littered with great medical science and information


The majority of health professionals are absolute idiots. Any GP/ ER doc knows so little of almost everything medical outside their scope of practice.


Anyways we don’t need to beat a dead horse, let’s move on haha.
Who cares anymore.
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Answer to OP: they moved on because the threat of covid has passed as expected.

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No the red flags were just an indicator.

Literally all the science shows it’s detrimental to your health, not aiding whatsoever at all.

Alex Berenson sued twitter in federal court for being banned for spreading “misinformation” about the vaccine.

He won that law suit, proved everything he supplied was true and factual.
His sub stack is littered with great medical science and information


The majority of health professionals are absolute idiots. Any GP/ ER doc knows so little of almost everything medical outside their scope of practice.


Anyways we don’t need to beat a dead horse, let’s move on haha.
Who cares anymore.


That's not true. The general consensus of the medical community, even outside the US, is that the vaccines were worth it. They helped making the transition of covid from a virus of concern to another common cold less steep in terms of its costs on society. It's the lockdowns that the medical community is more critical of in hindsight.

Youre really overestimating your own abilities by calling GPs/ER docs stupid... the core of an ER docs work is understanding diagnostical statistics and they are very aware of the stats involved in the covid-related hospital visits. I mean, do you even statistics?

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