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Aug 16 2020 01:14am
Quote (eMptyBox @ May 15 2020 04:30pm)
one of them has an agenda

ill let you decide ;)


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Aug 16 2020 07:02pm
not sure someone actually answered, i didnt bother reading everything due to massive amounts of trolling. in general i like that, but in this case i can actually help :blush: ! corona wont interact with the flu and make anything like that chimera from mission impossible 2 shit if thats what you asked, so the answer to that is a hard no :zzz:

theres another problem though. ive seen the bloodwork of corona patients (myself included) and the main characteristic there is low blood cell count and some platelets crap. leukocites tend to be on the lower end (~ 4k, ive never seen anything over 5k in clinical patients and lowest ive seen was 2.3k which is not good). as soon as your white cell count goes over 5 ~ 5.5k, the thing doesnt progress anymore, meaning it doesnt have that much cell killing potential, it just weakens you and then attacks like a pussy, something like fighting a 10 year old but with your arms and legs tied up :wacko: influenza virus (flu) on the other hand is actually better at killing cells, but it doesnt lower your immunity, so when you see the blood work, total blood cells are normal, only lymphocytes are often lower. this would be like fighting a 15 year old but without your arms and legs tied up.

this is bad for two reasons! first, lower lymphocytes in corona indicate a higher mortality, so even though you will probably see lower total white blood cells (leukocytes), you usually dont see lower lymphocytes, and since flu lowers lymphocytes, this might be a problem. second, since corona lowers total leukocytes (due to innate immunity taking care of the disease at start), that might weaken you against the flu if you got it at the same time. this could pretty much be like both those 15 and 10 year old kicking you while your arms and legs were tied :wacko:

note that so far there is NO EVIDENCE OF ANY OF THIS, this is just speculation. when you get any viral infection, you make interferons, which are non-specific and work against any viral infection. so basically the flu count trigger a fast interferon response and you could have even a weaker disease. personally, i would advise against getting both of those at the same time, might be scary due to synergy corona has with other diseases, especially bacterial. you could survive both of those and then die of some random bacterial infection because your leukocytes were 1k or something :cry:
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Sep 11 2020 06:03pm
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Is there any chance that when flu season comes around that covid-19 and the seasonal flu could combine and form something new and more dangerous?


No. But having both at the same time would suck. Surely social distancing and wearing masks will lesson flu season.
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Sep 11 2020 06:14pm
It is possible they can engineer a higher level virus, then tell us it’s a mutation of covid 19. Not everyone has the tools to isolate the viruses and the expertise to know exactly what is going on.
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It is possible they can engineer a higher level virus, then tell us it’s a mutation of covid 19. Not everyone has the tools to isolate the viruses and the expertise to know exactly what is going on.


If they did that it would be very obvious when the virus was sequenced. We know what mutations look like and we know what artificial insertions look like.
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Sep 12 2020 07:15pm
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If they did that it would be very obvious when the virus was sequenced. We know what mutations look like and we know what artificial insertions look like.



oh yes those that have the tools will know. But will they be allowed to talk?
And will the media report it?
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Sep 12 2020 07:58pm
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oh yes those that have the tools will know. But will they be allowed to talk?
And will the media report it?


"Those that have the tools" are distributed across the world in many different countries at many different institutions within those countries. Unless your "they" includes every government of every nation of the world, then yes, they will know and will be allowed to talk.

And if your "they" is every government, I'll just say you're an idiot and leave it at that.
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Sep 12 2020 08:49pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 12 2020 09:58pm)
"Those that have the tools" are distributed across the world in many different countries at many different institutions within those countries. Unless your "they" includes every government of every nation of the world, then yes, they will know and will be allowed to talk.

And if your "they" is every government, I'll just say you're an idiot and leave it at that.



And you know how governments work all over the world?

I think not, mr. Disinformant.
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And you know how governments work all over the world?

I think not, mr. Disinformant.


If you think all the governments of the world can work in unison towards a common goal then you have more faith in humanity than me. I live in the real world though, where there are tons of contradictory goals of governments and groups and so the world is rife with conflict.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 12 2020 10:54pm)
If you think all the governments of the world can work in unison towards a common goal then you have more faith in humanity than me. I live in the real world though, where there are tons of contradictory goals of governments and groups and so the world is rife with conflict.



Never made that claim. But your attempt at a strawman is laughable.
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