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Dec 8 2022 08:31am
I used to be atheist

I don't like religion still


I find God in the garden
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Dec 8 2022 04:35pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 6 2022 06:01am)
appreciate you comment. read it twice.

have one comment for fun
"physics tells us "there are certain things you arent allowed to know", and it pisses scientists off and ifpisses me off as well"
(haha :) what comes to my mind is the one way speed of light)
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have this for today. its a whopping two hour vid. it talks about fossil oddities that academia would rather ignore cause they are a bunch of clods. hold on its some crazy stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zz8_MxcnzY


same data as what graham hancock was talking about, kinda hard evidence that some type of a humanoid had walked the earth at some point(s). couldnt watch the whole video though, music was annoying af :wacko:

Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Dec 8 2022 04:02am)
Maybe you are in a simulation and your creator is an alien nerd that doesnt check the logs XD Maybe pray to that one too while you are at it.

What i am trying to say is there are endless ideas that we cant disprove because they are only ideas! How do you choose which "idea" could be real if none are measurable in any shape or form. Do you take all ideas in, just in case?


well tbh all those ideas can be grouped as "creator" or "chance". simulation theory is particularly shit though as 1) its creationist in nature, requiring the same amount of faith as religious theories and 2) it answers nothing, just throws the hot potato to our creator civizilation to answer the question further and basically says "we can never answer this", and for those two reasons actual autistic high iq scientists like krauss are against it. im paraphrasing krauss here, but no one gives a shit about an explanation that just tells you "well it is how it is, now shut the fuck up", like anthropic principle or this :wacko: not to mention that it implies a non-personal god so its even harder to test than religious theories. tldr the simulation theory is midwit as fuck and poses more questions than it solves, e.g. was our creator civilization created or appeared by chance?

so either go full rationalism with chance theory, or be a chad believer. being religion fluid is gayer than being gender fluid :mellow:

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Dec 8 2022 04:57pm
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same data as what graham hancock was talking about, kinda hard evidence that some type of a humanoid had walked the earth at some point(s). couldnt watch the whole video though, music was annoying af :wacko:



well tbh all those ideas can be grouped as "creator" or "chance". simulation theory is particularly shit though as 1) its creationist in nature, requiring the same amount of faith as religious theories and 2) it answers nothing, just throws the hot potato to our creator civizilation to answer the question further and basically says "we can never answer this", and for those two reasons actual autistic high iq scientists like krauss are against it. im paraphrasing krauss here, but no one gives a shit about an explanation that just tells you "well it is how it is, now shut the fuck up", like anthropic principle or this :wacko: not to mention that it implies a non-personal god so its even harder to test than religious theories. tldr the simulation theory is midwit as fuck and poses more questions than it solves, e.g. was our creator civilization created or appeared by chance?

so either go full rationalism with chance theory, or be a chad believer. being religion fluid is gayer than being gender fluid :mellow:


i like for just that reason. it comes from the institution of science and really fuks with the antitheist know it all mind. ;)

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i like for just that reason. it comes from the institution of science and really fuks with the antitheist know it all mind. ;)


oh i agree ^_^ ! its crazy how the exact same group of people can bash religious people as "low iq", and then blindly accept a creationist theory with zero evidence just because the creator in question is something more intuitive to them :unsure:

i dont get it :wacko:
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oh i agree ^_^ ! its crazy how the exact same group of people can bash religious people as "low iq", and then blindly accept a creationist theory with zero evidence just because the creator in question is something more intuitive to them :unsure:

i dont get it :wacko:


due to the advancement of science they cant be so "cock sure" of them selves with the abiogenesis assertion so now its "ancient aliens" which would mean a creator lol
have you seen the vid with dawkins (and dawkins is the high priest of "macro" evolution) being fully open to the idea of "ancient aliens" if you havent i can post it for you.
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due to the advancement of science they cant be so "cock sure" of them selves with the abiogenesis assertion so now its "ancient aliens" which would mean a creator lol
have you seen the vid with dawkins (and dawkins is the high priest of "macro" evolution) being fully open to the idea of "ancient aliens" if you havent i can post it for you.


havent watched but im not surprised, dawkins is the very definition of a midwit :unsure:

the only impressive feat hes ever done is coining the word "meme" :lol:
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havent watched but im not surprised, dawkins is the very definition of a midwit :unsure:

the only impressive feat hes ever done is coining the word "meme" :lol:


here it is the first minute and a half. keep in mind its dawkins the high priest of evolution saying it.


i have another vid i used to post of dawkins explaining DNA it was a really good vid. my challenge was "how does his explanation of DNA challenge the things i believe?. the last time i posted that vid i decided to check and make sure the link worked. funny right at that time it was moved to private and i had to find a different link (kina creepy too). it was a great vid, dawkins explaining DNA and creationists ripping on him in the comment section. :)
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Dec 8 2022 09:44pm
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well tbh all those ideas can be grouped as "creator" or "chance". simulation theory is particularly shit though as 1) its creationist in nature, requiring the same amount of faith as religious theories and 2) it answers nothing, just throws the hot potato to our creator civizilation to answer the question further and basically says "we can never answer this", and for those two reasons actual autistic high iq scientists like krauss are against it. im paraphrasing krauss here, but no one gives a shit about an explanation that just tells you "well it is how it is, now shut the fuck up", like anthropic principle or this :wacko: not to mention that it implies a non-personal god so its even harder to test than religious theories. tldr the simulation theory is midwit as fuck and poses more questions than it solves, e.g. was our creator civilization created or appeared by chance?

so either go full rationalism with chance theory, or be a chad believer. being religion fluid is gayer than being gender fluid :mellow:



How about other ideas/religions? There are 4000+ of them :)
I hope you pray to all of them just in case! Either way its faith and its not based on "REALITY". Have fun with your personal god.

What annoys me is that scientists always say "we dont know yet" or "we only have theories" while religious people act like they have proof of what they blabber about.

In a science nothing is sure until it has been proven numerous times without failing a single time and even then they still call it a theory (example gravity... even now it is considered a theory and not fact). Religion is simple faith without any connection to reality and yet it appears to be set in stone with you people.

So tell me... What religion do you follow and why? I guess because you were born into it?
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How about other ideas/religions? There are 4000+ of them :)
I hope you pray to all of them just in case! Either way its faith and its not based on "REALITY". Have fun with your personal god.

What annoys me is that scientists always say "we dont know yet" or "we only have theories" while religious people act like they have proof of what they blabber about.

In a science nothing is sure until it has been proven numerous times without failing a single time and even then they still call it a theory (example gravity... even now it is considered a theory and not fact). Religion is simple faith without any connection to reality and yet it appears to be set in stone with you people.

So tell me... What religion do you follow and why? I guess because you were born into it?


Big bang theory, theory of gravity, theory of relativity, theory of evolution etc. All fake theories that we collectively run with as facts, same with space and everything else people accept information from a young age and are programmed to not be able to see past it. Hence everyone needing a garden.

Btw the theory of gravity is bogus they had the mathematics for acceleration a long time ago.. just some dumbass came a long and said it was the equation to "gravity" when this formula is way older than so called gravity



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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Dec 9 2022 04:44am)
How about other ideas/religions? There are 4000+ of them :)
I hope you pray to all of them just in case! Either way its faith and its not based on "REALITY". Have fun with your personal god.

What annoys me is that scientists always say "we dont know yet" or "we only have theories" while religious people act like they have proof of what they blabber about.

In a science nothing is sure until it has been proven numerous times without failing a single time and even then they still call it a theory (example gravity... even now it is considered a theory and not fact). Religion is simple faith without any connection to reality and yet it appears to be set in stone with you people.

So tell me... What religion do you follow and why? I guess because you were born into it?


okay so first of all, the reason i mentioned the term "personal god" is because unlike simulation theory, that can actually be tested. actually theres already a lot of evidence that quantum realm can be influenced by thought alone (check some work on dean radin), and although it doesnt imply a personal god, it favors it. but you can test if theres a personal god by for example making statistical research on prayer, because thats as personal as it gets. although you have to do it yourself or rely on anecdotal evidence, because you wont get any funds because theres an agenda against religion, as religion is what keeps families and societies together and atheism is what collapses them. either way, you can test if theres a personal god to some extent. also i dont think it matters if you, how to put it, "pray to the wrong one". but you wouldnt understand that :(

also, dont get this as an insult, but hearing "Either way its faith and its not based on REALITY" from someone who believes that simulation theory is anything more than intellectual masturbation, is kinda fucked up :mellow:

as for the scientists saying "we dont know yet" etc and religious people being completely opposite...well now thats not really the case at all :unsure: the reality is this: we all have things we believe in, we are biased towards them, and will react badly and deny it to an extent if we are proven otherwise. and our beliefs are based on our way of thinking, no matter scientists or not. for example einstein needed YEARS to accept quantum theory despite the proof. you know why? because it was counterintuitive to him (which to be fair, it is), because it went against his beliefs. he wanted a world where there was order that everything was supposed to follow and he just couldnt take it :wacko: one of the smartest people in history, succumbed to beliefs. so if the FUCKING EINSTEIN needed 20 years to let go of his belief even despite the shitload of evidence he was introduced with, can you really blame the average joe for believing in god when HE is the one who has more evidence than you do against it? basically we are all biased towards our beliefs, to change someones belief you need a lot of evidence, and you dont have it. so dont put your scientists on a pedestal, they are prone to biases as everyone else. they are just louder with expressing them :wacko: scientists are way worse than religious people because they try to sell themselves as unbiased, and then sell you their bias. someone saying he has no bias is a sure sign of midwit, and i advise ignoring those people in a veeery wide circle :wacko:

as for my religion! im a christian :blush: yes i was born into it ofc, and yes i would probably be another religion if i was born into that one (well except islam probably because that one is just idiotic). but i like christianity :blush: buddism is also nice i think. doesnt really matter which religion you are, but its good to have some religion, otherwise you are heading into inevitable collapse. and i mean personal, familial, and societal collapse. and its not a big secret even, every anthropologist knows it. thats why its being pushed actually

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