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Oct 27 2021 09:48am
Quote (SnxxZy @ Oct 27 2021 01:43am)
ink, did someone come out with a new break point chart/calculator yet?



Gel is working hard on it. When I get some free time I’m going to start testing the theory in game, and once the maths are confirmed I’ll start building a tool based on Gel’s work.

Basically, we have 20 years of stuff to rewrite.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Oct 27 2021 09:50am
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Oct 27 2021 11:41am
Being a Fury Main, I literally stopped reading after I saw "Jalals is useable, but honestly with the other choices it's practically worthless."

:rofl:

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Oct 27 2021 11:51am
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Being a Fury Main, I literally stopped reading after I saw "Jalals is useable, but honestly with the other choices it's practically worthless."

:rofl:


Ty for your opinion mr October 3rd 2021. I'm sure inkanddagger, one of the greatest Wolf players is completely wrong.

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Ty for your opinion mr October 3rd 2021. I'm sure inkanddagger, one of the greatest Wolf players is completely wrong.


Triggered? And edited. Thanks for proving how narrow minded you are by providing this amazing insult.
Your opinion matters.

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Oct 27 2021 12:33pm
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Triggered? And edited. Thanks for proving how narrow minded you are by providing this amazing insult.
Your opinion matters.

:rofl:


Please quote the so-called "insult" that I fired at you?
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Quote (Gonzs47 @ Oct 27 2021 10:41am)
Being a Fury Main, I literally stopped reading after I saw "Jalals is useable, but honestly with the other choices it's practically worthless."

:rofl:



In melee specifically, it is outclassed. Cerebus does more DPS against Barbs and Paladins, Guillaumes does more DPS against other Druids. Jalals is a fantastic generalist pelt. If you’re going to be battling a few different classes and you don’t want to be going to your stash between battles, it’s fine. If you need place on a ladder or in a tournament, leave it in the stash. If you’re in pub duels with an etomb there are diadems that outclass it, but for the price it would have to be an insane diadem for me to use it over jalals.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Oct 27 2021 10:38pm
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Oct 28 2021 04:37am
The 1st thing i muled to my druid when making it was jalals.
The first thing i muled away to make space was jalals.

And that was for wolf vs build.
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Oct 28 2021 04:42am
Quote (gel87 @ Oct 28 2021 09:48am)
Ofc :)

Fury Werewolf:
Delay=ROUNDDOWN(256*WepBase)/((WepIas+WSM+100)*256/100);0)

AnimSpeed =ROUNDDOWN(9 * 256 /Delay;0)

SpeedIncrease =ROUNDDOWN((120*(GearIas+WepIas)/(120+(GearIas+WepIas)))+SIAS+WSM;0)

Frames=ROUNDUP((256*7/((100+SpeedIncrease)/100*AnimSpeed));0)

Frames 2 =ROUNDUP(256*13/((100 + SpeedIncrease)/100*AnimSpeed);0) - 1

WepBase = 19 for stormlash/swords/axes/etc
WepBase = 17 for polearms etc.


This is the latest for fury.
Other werewolf Paw attack works the same as frames 2.

I have checked against old ias calc d2iascalc on slow wepon bases and low werewolf level, since fast wepons max out very fast on d2lod.

I had missunderstood ias on the speed increase formula earlier, this would never be noticed on normal used wepons on d2lod, due to speed increase maxing out at 75 instant with fast wepons.

Chilled will make it 50+Speed increase in frames formula, instead of 100+Speed increase. Theese 100 is called AnimRate.
Equipment Slow i think will be taken away from speed increase direct, and same with skill slow like holy freeze/golem.

I dont remember the max values of all.
Max 50item slow at least.

So you can say:
Anim rate - 50 if chilled.
Wsm - % of item slow. (i dont know if it affects both delay and speed increase or just speed increase, maby you know?)
SIAS - % of skill slow.

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 28 2021 04:56am
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Oct 28 2021 09:54am
My mind is blown. The old gods are dead. Long live offhand IAS?
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Oct 28 2021 01:57pm
Quote (Moosentist @ Oct 28 2021 05:54pm)
My mind is blown. The old gods are dead. Long live offhand IAS?


Well, 1 guy said he tested my teory, and that he did not feel it to be as fast.
I dno, im still on thin ice as i dont have much gear on d2r to test yet.
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