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Nov 4 2021 10:44am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 4 2021 02:16pm)
first i need thank you always mate, your help was excellent to learn the calcs with ias! :thumbsup:

yeah i calc'd all manually with smiter bps and on the calc provided with old bps is all matched up perfect,

but i received some feedbacks about some of the bps get a slightly margin less of ias needed too

i used same formula for ias bps
48ias needed to reach 5 fpa smite with pb+fana aura lv27

i got video of another user showing 46ias working at 5fpa smite skill

blizzard fvck up the d2r code i guess D: besides that all other calcs work smoothly 'til now =P


i did calcs on release and this is what i got, haven't tested since

should be 46 for smite
ceiling((12* 256) / [256* (100+x+37+30) / 100]) - 1=5, solve for x
5 frames is 33 eias
4 frames is 74 eias

converting to ias:
floor(120 * x/ (120 + x))=33=46ias
floor(120 * x/ (120 + x))=74=194ias

This post was edited by marvel. on Nov 4 2021 10:45am
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Nov 4 2021 10:50am
Quote (ThoroBR @ Nov 4 2021 05:34pm)
yeah i calc'd pretty much the same with eias 100, but i thought "this is impossible D:"

but you have a point, seems is safe to assume d2r accept clean numbers now?

for sure we need more tests of in-game too to know more of this type of deviance


I think lod did the same.
But very few of them since u max out at 75eias.

Example:
Traps :
16/(1+(60/100))-1 = 9,000
16/(1+(61/100))-1 = 8,93
Old d2lod said 61 in eias table

16/(1+(46/100))-1 = 9,95 (yet old table said 47eias)

So, the old tables had differensial values, so i took it i could not trust them 100%, i instead check all vs d2ias calc as well as the old tables.

Kicks:
13/(1+(30/100))-1 = 9,000
Yet old table said 31.

So, its hard to test so small values unless u set urself up to test those excact eias points giving an even number.

Old eias tables online did round up such even numbers, but i dno what the game did.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 4 2021 10:51am
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Quote (gel87 @ Nov 4 2021 09:08am)
16/(1+(101/100))-1 = 6,96 aka 7 frames.
16/(1+(100/100))-1 = 7,0000, how the game does with theese i dno, excel rounds it up, what happens in the game i dno. Anyway in that case when hitting an even number like this(there is a very few) only testing helps. Ur testing seems to show that whenever hitting an even number it stays that number and dont round it up.



D2 has always rounded down, not up.
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Nov 4 2021 04:48pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Nov 4 2021 09:37pm)
D2 has always rounded down, not up.


Frames are rounded up.

5 frames is slower than 4 frames. ^^
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Nov 5 2021 02:14pm
. posted a fixed formula.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89093036&f=147&p=589346044



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ceiling((8* 256) / floor[128* (100-wsm+skillias+eias) / 100]) -1

10=47
9=61
8=79
7=100
6=129
5=168
4=221



This post was edited by dooderek on Nov 5 2021 02:16pm
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Nov 5 2021 05:21pm
I've been thinking about an Earthshifter build for a Fury/Armageddon hybrid. Normally you'd Shael the Earthshifter but maybe now 7 frame fury, or maybe even faster, can be reached without the Shael in the weapon. Allowing for eth Earthshifter with Zod.
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Nov 7 2021 01:49am
So, it means we need 75 ias to reach 4 fpa with smiter ?

And 3 fpa ? Someone calculated it ?
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Nov 7 2021 03:10am
Does this mean we can achieve 2 frame strafe server side?
And would 1 frame strafe be possible
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Quote (Chikoulinger @ Nov 7 2021 10:49am)
So, it means we need 75 ias to reach 4 fpa with smiter ?

And 3 fpa ? Someone calculated it ?


given: phase blade + 35% fanaticism.
208IAS from gear to reach 4 frame for smites.
Tho, 50IAS ( 30%grief+20%gloves, for example ) gives whopping 5-frame smite.


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Nov 8 2021 01:10pm
to know about breakpoints for smite -> calc'd phaseblade and berzerk axe
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89080823&f=148&o=50

3 fpa need too much ias to be really useful..
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