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#561
May 8 2021 10:29am
Quote (gel87 @ May 9 2021 12:04am)
They should do this to make shapers and shamans etc viable:

Make theese uninteruptible:
- fury
- shapechange werewolf
- shapechange werebear

Delays:
- remove all delays given by fireskills and hurricane towards shapechange skills.

Shockwave:
Make it pierce.

Fire dmg skills:
- Boost all fire dmg skills by 50% more base dmg before syntenergies etc. (ofc fireclaw as well)
- boost physical dmg by 50% more base dmg before syntenergies on volcano, armageddon, moulten boulder.

Shapechange skills:
- Shapechange werebear and werewolf gets a 1% Damage reduction syntenergi add from lycan(max 20%)
- lycan also get 1% res pr skill lvl.
- Maul/fireclaw gets 5% more attack rating bonus pr level.
- maul no longer is a charge up alibility requiring 16 hits before its at 320% ed. It is now a direct bonus pr skill level. Maul also get a direct dmg of 5 pr skill level.

2 new wepons:
Giant tresher: 60ias, 150-200% ed, 2-3 soc, 30-50@, 400-450 direct defense, 300-350attack rating.
Dimensional blade: 60ias, 70-105% ed, 30max dmg, 350-400 ar, 250-350 defense, 30-40@, 3soc.

This would balance out theese for pvp:
Maulers
Fireclawer
Shamans
Werewolf
Fire druids

- Without buffing ele druid.
- Withour buffing pvm much (current meta fireclawer benefit from current maul charge up skills in combi with fireclaw as well as 90% of monsters in hell are fire immune which cannot be broken)

Werewolf is the strongest shapechanger by far, so it gets the least buffs.
Fireclawer and Maulers are really bad atm, believe me i have tried. I was Partly able to make them viable on asgard with inzane rares/craft in combi with eth robo wepons, wiz gloves and bug belt. So theese gets the most buffs.

The 2 new weps wont benefit werewolf much, but it will add a small base dmg to Maulers and Fireclawers. Where the 2 handed wep might be able to add a small physical dmg of up to many 4k on a fireclawer.



Shockwave is an aoe spell already if that’s what you’re asking for?

I’m not sure if blizzard would give this much love to ss tree. Correct me if I’m wrong but windy already is one of the best! I feel like if they let wolf/bear be able to hit max speed with more weapons would be nice.


This post was edited by Tarisus on May 8 2021 10:52am
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#562
May 8 2021 11:44am
Quote (Tarisus @ May 8 2021 06:29pm)
Shockwave is an aoe spell already if that’s what you’re asking for?

I’m not sure if blizzard would give this much love to ss tree. Correct me if I’m wrong but windy already is one of the best! I feel like if they let wolf/bear be able to hit max speed with more weapons would be nice.


Yes its aoe, but if a summon in standing in front of a character the character will not be hit by shockwave, it stops at first enemy and does not pierce.

Werewolf is pretty strong, if u includes rabies. I got a maxed out tele hybrid wolf vs all build. It can kill all types of enemies, including hammers and smiters and do tvt quite good. But there is no reason for fury beeing an interuptible skill, fury is very bad for general pvp due to beeing so stunnable, and the fact that u May get stunned while you jump and gonna shapechange also destroys the Flow of the char and gives an delay before u can shape again.

Theese wepons should also have 20fcr instead of 10, and also have 30-40fhr to allow putting ber runes in helm to reach a somewhat reliable dr% on a 100fcr 2 handed build.
The +4 rangeadder really helps a lot on theese builds.

Here you can see werewolf can handle all if Built for speed:



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2zbPkcOHvc

This post was edited by gel87 on May 8 2021 11:44am
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#563
May 11 2021 11:56pm
Does Fury attack with fastest 4 attacks then one slow attack or is it slow first attack then fast 4 attacks?
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#564
May 12 2021 12:31am
Quote (Tarisus @ May 11 2021 10:56pm)
Does Fury attack with fastest 4 attacks then one slow attack or is it slow first attack then fast 4 attacks?


Although the animation looks like a long swipe then fast attacks, it's actually fast then long.
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May 13 2021 12:50pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 12 2021 08:31am)
Although the animation looks like a long swipe then fast attacks, it's actually fast then long.


Yo,
Im currently working on ias calculation for fury, and hoping to later do rabies, hunger, feral rage, as well as getting control over the weponspeed bonuses/penalties for the other classes in werewolf/werebear shape as well as i intend to do the bear attacks and double throw and maby some more in time.

It looks like im Finally done with the fury formula, took several hours for me to understand :S
What i miss now is chilling effect, which is 33% slow in hell according to Google. And i think i know where to put that into the formulas.

In that manner i was wondering, since u have tested a lot, does % slow from items/golem/holyfreeze work same way as chilling on werewolf/fury?

You can see my progress here:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=85034639&f=87

This post was edited by gel87 on May 13 2021 12:50pm
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Jun 3 2021 01:06am
This is the Fenrir build that killed Odin.
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#567
Jun 25 2021 11:48am
Quote (Tarisus @ May 8 2021 09:29am)
Shockwave is an aoe spell already if that’s what you’re asking for?

I’m not sure if blizzard would give this much love to ss tree. Correct me if I’m wrong but windy already is one of the best! I feel like if they let wolf/bear be able to hit max speed with more weapons would be nice.



Shockwave is aoe but blockable.
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Jun 29 2021 08:02am
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#569
Jul 14 2021 06:39pm
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Actually trying to find a way to fit Enigma of Duress into the elite build. Any thoughts or possible avenues?

My goals are simply Pub play; no restrictions. Hybrid rabies seems to be more versatile than straight fury so that's how I am set up. Also looking to slim down on my stash visits. Thank you for any insights!

This post was edited by Glockoma on Jul 14 2021 06:42pm
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Jul 15 2021 08:54am
Quote (Glockoma @ Jul 15 2021 02:39am)
bump

Actually trying to find a way to fit Enigma of Duress into the elite build. Any thoughts or possible avenues?

My goals are simply Pub play; no restrictions. Hybrid rabies seems to be more versatile than straight fury so that's how I am set up. Also looking to slim down on my stash visits. Thank you for any insights!


https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84395611&f=87

Here. I use eod scarab husk.
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