Quote (Gwala @ Sep 22 2022 09:42am)

Is it bm to prebuff werewolf? Cuz that takes a lot of the shape-shifting gc advantage away.

Quote (Koston @ Sep 20 2022 07:38pm)

As a disclaimer, this is more anecdotal since I haven't used 2 handers in a while. It's purely based on what I've heard many others say.

Tomb Reavers are still okay but people have come to the consensus that they are outclassed now and basically most 2 handed options are really outclassed by EBOTD GT. It's very hard to beat apparently and just rips through everything. Tomb Reaver still has its place because the all resistances and MF helps though, so I think some prefer it based on those mods alone (especially the MF if we're talking PVM). It's a 3 frame weapon too. I heard there was a lot of hype at Reaper's Toll and while it is a very good weapon, I heard most of the hype was driven by streamers and such who had not even tried EBOTD GT yet. So I'm not 100% sure about that. As Gwala stated above, I believe EBOTD Archon Staff is just as good too. Haven't heard much about 2H Death yet.

Quote (pat777b @ Sep 24 2022 01:15am)

Thanks for this guide. If you don't mind, could you do some research and write up a similar fury druid guide for PvM? I'd be interested in knowing what all the 2h options are and whether ebotd gt is truly BiS or if other options like the mentioned 2H death are even better.

Quote (Oilerfan @ Sep 24 2022 11:16am)

Seeing as EDC is a much more viable option in D2R, Unless it was changed I think it should be noted that a 279% ED and a 280% ED Death Cleaver Do the exact same min-max damage. Save yourself some FG if need be.

Quote (Koston @ 25 Sep 2022 01:29)

Yes, this is true, I believe. I also heard the same thing about a 414% EBOTDZ and 415%. That's sort of why I recommended just to get an EDC preferably over 275 and an EBOTDZ over 410, but thank you for bringing this up. There will be those perfectionist people who want the 100% perfects of course. :P

Quote (kpa @ Sep 24 2022 03:32pm)

414 botdz has the same minimum but 1 point less maximim damage.

Quote (pat777b @ Sep 24 2022 01:15am)

Thanks for this guide. If you don't mind, could you do some research and write up a similar fury druid guide for PvM? I'd be interested in knowing what all the 2h options are and whether ebotd gt is truly BiS or if other options like the mentioned 2H death are even better.

Quote (Koston @ Sep 24 2022 11:07am)

Thank you for the kind words and interest!

Unfortunately, writing a guide this comprehensive requires the input of multiple people and extensive time. Given that PvM isn't exactly something I do often, I'm not sure I'd be the best candidate to write a PvM guide that matches this guide's level of comprehensiveness (and I don't really know anyone deeply into PvM wolf druids who could help me). I can give a few tips of advice based on what I do to PvM (especially since the release of Terror Zones, lol).

The first thing is, probably the best thing to do would be to go to the IAS calculator to determine what weapon you'd like to use. You have a lot of options where 2-handers can hit 3 frame speeds now, so you should plug in the weapon you want to use and see how much additional IAS you need to hit 3 frame. Options include Reaper's Toll, EBOTD (in probably an Archon Staff or Giant Thresher base), Death (in some 2H base, not sure), Tomb Reaver (no longer needs to be socketed 2x 40/15), etc. I have heard that the absolute best PvM build overall is Grief PB + Phoenix Monarch but cannot confirm that myself. You would need someone really into PvM to kind of sit there for a while and thoroughly crunch the numbers on these things to see which one is best, but I also have a feeling that it might be subjective and depend on what you want out of your PvM experience. If you're going more for MF, Tomb Reaver might be hard to beat in that instance (up to 80 base MF and you can even stick in cool jewels or something that have additional MF on them now). If you're going for pure damage and want a 2H, I think EBOTD GT might be best (but not sure), and if you're going for pure damage and want a 1H, I'd imagine Grief + Phoenix is unbeatable.

Other things I do for PvM: 1) Take off the Highlords and put on a good blood ammy that has FRW, high life and +all resistances (see pic below for an example since these are uncommon), rings with LL/resistances, 2druid/30frw/2 soc circlets with good all resistance jewels and other useful mods (other people would probably say Jalals), take off Steelrends and put on Laying of Hands, if you need MF maybe put on War Travs but Gores are still good, 3frw/resistance small charms, etc. I prioritize mobility right now because you need to keep up with other people who teleport in Terror Zones. Use a merc with Reaper's Toll if you're not using one yourself.


https://i.imgur.com/0CECZFw.png

Maybe someone who is deeply into PvM wolf druids will send you a message and be more thorough :P