i guess now we know why you choose the "tanky" option, all your chars need 4 rows of mana pots just to get to the Throne room.

Mmm, not really. This is just the testing char i made to share, in mine normally i run 1-2xfiles of tps and 2-3 of mana, and maybe drinks 1-2 pots from time to time. Mana is around 500-600 so it's ok to tele some without need of much pots, unless mana burn mobs etc.

This post was edited by Wisteria on Apr 15 2019 11:45am

i thought you have lower fcr than 65, if so, then we are even

my current setup isnt perfect because i dont have 2x 15/15 jools

anyway:

andy cham
stormlash ber (should be 15/15 instead)
enigma
mara (should be hl)
trangs
tg
10 fcr ring with gg res
random melee ring with gg res
storm um (should be 15/15)
upped gores

cta/spirit switch

after that 3 upgrades all ias bp's will be topped while faded

as you can see i absolutely have no a source of cold dmg in order to not shatter corpses



im using insight in general pvm and for rushes

Ok, ye the insight explains why no mana needed at all xd

I had k/t's similar to yours before but with this one I wanted max trap damage, it's more trap focused (ls damage)

Yep, mine is 65 fcr when needed, main reason is this:



For some areas, lower fcr is fine so I use the +3/life one, but for rush etc I use the fcr one... so it's 65fcr with: cta/spirit35 side + arach(20) + amu(10). If I wanted to go 102 fcr, I would go...

Magefists(20), Arach(20), +3trap/20fcr circlet, +3trap/10fcr amu, 35fcr spirit (cta side) = 105 fcr.

But I prefer to use draculs for safety (life tap), and keep 2xbk's/sojs for trap damage, so the best option is simply get used to 65 fcr and use life circlet instead then

when you have storm/mblock - you are already suppa safe (im talking about pvm)

ok whats your numbers selfboed?

mine:

1017-1679 dmg talon (6 kicks)

1-7887 light sentry

15.6 yards on death sentry

30 fcr (13 frames) on the battle side/65 fcr on bo side



p.s.:

almost trophy

Nice ring

Yep, it's tanky already with ss and max block, but the 15 str from dracs as main gloves saves me those pts for all the build always, and I use the dracs in ubers too. I like ltap not just to keep sin alive but merc too, useful when doing chaos in p8 baal games for example and ofc in ubers/farming organs/etc.

There are some screens of my stats posted in the thread already:



LS dmg is around 1-11k/1-12k with regular setup, round 1-9k/10k+ with ubers setup.

Ofc It's with all the trap charms, if I quit 2 like in ur pics it's still around 1-10k+ ls dmg anyway (1-11k+ with cta side, still round 1-8k/9k with ubers setup)

Death Sentry: Uh... don't know in yards in spanish game it's in meters, 19 meters of area, 5 shots (no points into fireblast)

Kicks are 6 too (lvl 30 dtalon in regular pvm always), and same for ubers, even if using tg belt in ubers vs mephi cos using mara so its lvl 31 anyway.

Min kick dmg is lower than yours, round 6xx min, max is nearly the same (16xx), in ubers it goes up some (9xx/2xxx)

AR around 12/15k, but with infy merc it's kinda unimportant.

This post was edited by Wisteria on Apr 15 2019 12:58pm

Anyway, could send you a copy of the char via sp and can see it more easy if want.

Have fun.

If you use guilaume instead and rather use a 10fcr, dual leech, ar, res ring you add loads of dmg.

why?

i will lose 2 all skills from andy (hence my traps will be weaker) and will not be able to topped my ias frames

48 cb from hollow stormlash + gores is plenty already

Well, thing is, you can stash a guillaume and use when u want more ''raw'' kick potential anyway.