Best Guides For Mainstream Pvp Builds - Topic

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Aug 26 2020 10:11pm

Quote (TSBoyer @ Apr 26 2020 01:40am)

Nope

The guides listed in mainstream are the builds that people played for 15 years or more before being identified as Diablo 2 competitive meta-game.
And boy oh boy, no rock was left unturned in terms of testing and dabbling in every possible way in attempts to tweak existing builds, find new builds that were stronger, or at least tweak to be able to counter.
Sure we could argue about small variations in build suggestions like "Should I get light or cold res on my rare diadem" when everything else on your build is the same as the other guy,
but that would be ridiculous to claim that the two build structures were not the same build. Unless Diablo 2 patching has undergone some serious overhauls since I've been absent,
the builds listed in mainstream are the only builds that worked as meta or at least to viability amongst meta, when it came to people getting serious and getting together for real tournaments.
And even then during real tournaments or any serious competition in general that absolutely pushed the limits of the game mechanics, it always amounted down to 3x builds being the top meta:

1. Ele Druids - 2. Bone Necros - 3. Trap Assassins

^ Historically these 3 build structures were always top dog in 1v1 competition under GM ruling. Sometimes a different class would poke in for a moment as a champ but it wouldn't last long.

You can also quote me for saying: "If you have better guides, post them" several times on every page of this thread, since page 1. The first post was made in 2011.
So if you think this list is delusion, feel free to find or create better guides and post them as always.
I mean after 9 years and 1/10th of a million views to build what we have already in this list, I would love to see what you could come up with.

why does none of the windy builds listed talk about volcano and shockwave?

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Aug 27 2020 02:40am

Quote (Hyperdimension @ Aug 27 2020 12:11am)

why does none of the windy builds listed talk about volcano and shockwave?

Those skills were generally not very viable for high tier competition.

I mean, you could use them to do certain things at certain times, like creating frame locks with stacked volcano animation, but against better opponents it's mostly risk without reward and a waste of time trying to land anything like that.

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Oct 14 2020 08:54am

Bump

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Oct 29 2020 08:16pm

I'm not sure if you're accepting guides from other forums, but: https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/in-depth-pvp-bone-nec-guide.536928/

Probably one of the best nec guides

https://www.diabloii.net/forums/threads/ww-ghost-assassin-guide-v2-0.573390/

And one of the best ghost guides

This post was edited by Sharpes on Oct 29 2020 08:17pm

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Oct 30 2020 05:11am

90% of these are bad guides

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Dec 15 2020 07:39pm

Was going to repost the list at the top of this page but something is wrong with the code tonight.
Links are broken and not posting correctly. I'll see if the problem is fixed a bit later.

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Dec 15 2020 07:52pm

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Dec 16 2020 10:51am

You miss a stright up hybrid bowa (regular bow + plague)

Got one here, but there are some unessesary equipment which should not be bothered with in stash, and Stashed bow there might be better choices.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=77126375&f=87

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Dec 30 2020 01:08am

Not sure what the problem is in this thread or with d2jsp lately, but the links are no longer posting correctly.

So for anyone who wants to look at the list of the guides, go to page 63.

If anyone wants to attempt to quote/fix the previous listing, be my guest. I have no idea what the problem is. Give it your best shot.

Let me show you what's happening when I go to repost the links. Keep in mind I've been doing this for years, I know I am entering everything correctly, but this happens:

Mainstream PvP Guides
Current Compilation:

--> The Ultimate Soj Finder <-- Something everyone should be aware of after bot ban

Amazon
TSBoyer's Bowazon Guide v1.14d
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56891820&f=87&o=0Arelax’s Non-Ladder ZvZ Bowazon Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=47157433&f=87Hackzone’s 1.13 Tri-hybrid Pv@ll Amazon Guide[/URL]
- Now missing a legible straight CSer guide - Anyone feel free to write up a new one

Assassin
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=56564966Bui’s Ghost Assassin Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=32512252Bui’s Hybrid Assassin Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=27921027&f=871.12 PvP/TvT Trapsin Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=55418542&f=87&o=0Testic's PvP Kicksin Guide[/URL]
Gel87's Guide To The Assassin (pvp)

Barbarian
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=19084076&f=87Ling's Barb Versus Caster Guide V1.2[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64469553&f=87&o=0DHA's 63 Fcr Bvc Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36256493&f=87Public Barb Versus Barb Guide By Math[/URL]

Druid
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=23396087&f=871.12 PvP 163/99 & maxblock elemental druid V. 3.0[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=50605097&f=87&o=01.13 Elemental Vita Druid Guide[/URL]
The S H A M A N Druid
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=22250649&f=87Sharkbites Rabies/fury Guide. -1.12[/URL]

Necromancer
Egardner Vita Necro Guide
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66113985&f=8700apac's Pub Vita Nova Necro > 1.13 Pvp[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48460552&f=87Summoner Guide 1.13[/URL]

Paladin
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14125090&f=87The Pvp Hammerdin Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61679084&f=87Pvp Mage Guide > By Jeebus666[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=51808592&f=87Elemental Auras Guide V2.0[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36888250&f=87Marvel's Tele Smiter Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73227841&f=87Gel87's Tvt Vt Vs All Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=32187727&f=87The Zealot[/URL]

Sorceress
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=55990969&f=87V1.13 Gm Es Hybrid Blizzard Sorceress[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=60329450&f=87&o=25#p402914736Fireball Sorceress With Energy Shield[/URL]
Detailed Sva 117 Fcr Light Sorc

Popular Sub-Class Builds
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34292775&f=87Dual Dream Enchantress Sorc[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65036847&f=87The Wolf Barb > V2.0[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=46406339&f=87Pvm Bear-sorc Guide[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61808917&f=87wooliebooger's pvp bearzon guide[/URL]
Lagball Fastbear

Here is the criteria for (Is it a Mainstream Guide?):

* Is it based around d2jsp GM ruling? - If not, it isnt' mainstream
* Is it a build that you would show up to a 500fg blind wager with? - If not, it isn't mainstream
* Is it a well laid out guide that is easy to understand and is it accurate? - If not, it doesn't need to be posted here
* Are the PvP Strategy sections complete and informative in a comprehensive format? - If not, it doesn't need to be posted here

D2 GM Rules

http://i.imgur.com/b8Q1Bao.png

Looks like Photobucket went back on their new "pay for" policies. Most of these old guides have been repaired due to Photobucket once against providing free hosting.

These guides are still damaged in terms of images being lost, for w/e reason that may be. I'll keep them posted here incase anyone wants to repair or replace them:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69488398&f=87The PvP Javazon guide by CraZeeY and eacb[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=59844817&f=87Darken99’s PvP .13 Tele Javazon (Legit)[/URL]
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=48647218&f=87~Damach Zon Guide~[/URL]

Please link any guides that you feel are missing from this list.

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Dec 30 2020 01:13am

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Jan 10 2021 04:26am

The links for the older guides are broken somehow. The newer guides are working however.

Not sure if it can even be fixed.

Anyway, unless a mod cares to explain why this is happening and how to fix it, this will be my last post in this thread.

The URLs are all still there. Just use copy/paste if anyone wants to read these guides.

This post was edited by TSBoyer on Jan 10 2021 04:29am

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Jan 10 2021 05:04am

Quote (TSBoyer @ Jan 10 2021 11:26am)

It can be fixed, forexample like this:
Popular Sub-Class Builds
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34292775&f=87

You have to copy the link, paste it in google chrome, copy again and make link to fix it xD
OR compare what different there is between that and the new,
old:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34292775&f=87
new:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=34292775&f=87

Which is that the old links misses the s in httpS

This post was edited by gel87 on Jan 10 2021 05:10am

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