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Dec 28 2010 03:02am
Hey raynor,

Is there a good way to learn how to do a power clean? I find it really difficult to learn, the bar always crashes into my collar bone, which hurts like hell.
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Dec 28 2010 08:38am
Quote (SKCRaynor @ Dec 28 2010 12:57am)
Hey there. It really differs from person to person on what really works. You will have to make adjustments as you go along when you find things that are or arent working.

500-1000 calories per day over what you burn is needed for a good bulk - so 700-800 is acceptable. If you notice you are gaining too much fat, decrease it about 300 cal a day. If you are not gaining enough, increase another 300-400 cal a day.

for the ratio, the 40/40/20 is one of the most popular for bulking. There is also a good rule of thumb that says as long as you get 1.5-2g / lb of bodyweight worth of protein, the carbs and fat doesn't matter in RATIO figures as much as it does in just MINIMUM numbers...meaning if you require 300g of protein per day, you would need AT LEAST 300g carbs and 80g fats (2:1 ratio or better of unsat to sat fat). So technically if you got 300g protein, 500g carbs, and 100g fat, your ratio would be way off of 40/40/20 or even 30/40/30. However because you are hitting the protein balloon at the 300g mark, the fat and carbs must be a certain level or GREATER in order to bulk.

Lastly, the cutting phase usually happens after around 8 months of bulking. If you are not over 12-15% bf, a cutting phase is not yet necessary unless you are pre-contest. However, if you bulk properly, you will definitely be at 12-15% bf after 8 months.


here are some guides:


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=304616466
anabolic cutting diet

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=321315004
5x5 plan


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=327158583
Hypertrophy Plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=304396247
Cutting Workout Routine

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=335896241
Bulking Diet, workout, and supplement guide

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=337078542
Supplement Guide

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=337501104
Macro Guide


That diet is pretty much the same as the one I've whipped up, so I feel good about being on track with that. I can't afford creatine if I'm buying whey powder, however.

This post was edited by Zellers on Dec 28 2010 08:40am
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Dec 28 2010 12:43pm
Hey Raynor

first off, Merry Christmas and Happy new years!

Alright iirc you told someone that the multi vit "centrum" was a bad multi... but its still better than nothing correct?

Orange triad - Says to take 6 pills a day, what would you recommend? (can i take less? to save $)

and what are some other multis that u recommend?

Thanks
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Dec 28 2010 02:25pm
Quote (TheOak @ Dec 28 2010 01:43pm)
Hey Raynor

first off, Merry Christmas and Happy new years!

Alright iirc you told someone that the multi vit "centrum" was a bad multi...  but its still better than nothing correct?

Orange triad - Says to take 6 pills a day, what would you recommend? (can i take less? to save $)

and what are some other multis that u recommend?

Thanks


I take those vits too, lol
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Dec 28 2010 02:36pm
hey raynor glad to see your back, hope you enjoyed your holidays.

i have questions, so you've probably seen this workout/diet that im going to show you but might have forgot it so ill post it again just as reference, not really relevant but what the hell.

CHEST/BACK - Flat Bench / Incline DB bench / Decline DB bench / Barbell Deadlift / Lat Pulldown / Barbell Row / Seated Cable Row - 5x5 3x8-12 (on the other workouts)

SHOULDERS/LEGS - Military DB Press / DB Shoulder Shrugs / Seated Arnold Press / Shoulder Raises / Barbell Squats / Laying Leg curls / DB lunges / DB Calf Raises - 5x5

ARMS !!! - EZ-Bar Curls / DB concentration Curls / Seated Hammer Curls / Dips / Tricep Cable Pulldowns / DB Tricep Kickbacks - 5x5

Breakfast (eat within the first 15 minutes of waking up!) - 3/4 cup oatmeal, 3 scrambled eggs, ice water (drink ice water to raise your metabolism)
Meal 2 - 1 can of tuna fish made w/ veggies + mustard/mayo + 1 slice whole grain bread (or half a baked potato or 3/4 cup cooked brown rice)
Meal 3 - Salad with grilled chicken (use 100% extra virgin olive oil and vinegar as the dressing, all veggies and chicken, no croutons or any carb)
Meal 4 - 3 hard boiled eggs + 2 oz cheese + veggies or salad
Meal 5 - 40 gram Protein shake (drink this right after workout)[make sure to get a good protein shake like Optimum Nutrition 100% natural whey from bodybuilding.com]
Meal 6 - 1 cup 2% cottage cheese with mixed nuts and cinnamon

what im doing to "cut"

anyways heres my questions

You've heard of P90x i presume, i was just wondering, would it be better to do things like "cardio x" , "ab ripper x" on my days im not working out ? would that suffice for my cardiovascular workouts and ab workouts ? rather then doing Cardio and Abs : Do 45 minutes of cardio (teadmill, bike, power walking, swimming, etc) and do 100-200 reps of good ab work (crunches, situps, leg raises, etc)

also , for when im doing sets and reps like 5x5 should i be lifting heavy ?

i think thats it for now, let me know thanks take care !
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Dec 28 2010 05:37pm
Hey Raynor

I'm looking for a few exercises to add to both my traps and abs day. Also do you think there is a chest workout that is absolutely necessary to building an aesthetic chest besides flat bench/incline?

My current traps/abs:

Traps: Upright Rows, Shrugs
Abs: decline situps

[edit] hope your holidays were relaxing m9

This post was edited by MyAddiction on Dec 28 2010 05:37pm
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Dec 28 2010 11:06pm
Quote (JAKEFILE @ Dec 28 2010 03:08am)
I was wondering if I could get you to write up me a work out routine?
I have no experience, other then dry-land training I've done for hockey (which honestly isn't much)

I'm 18, 6'2, 170lbs (so obviously need to toss on some healthy weight)

I'm looking to gain some weight, and a tonne of muscle
I live in residence, which makes it very difficult for me to have a good diet (which I understand is very important while attempting to attain muscle)

let me know if you could write me up a solid work out routine, including what to do in the gym, diet, and supplements

I would definitely be willing to send a solid donation your way if you were able to find the time.

hope you had a happy holiday!



Hey there. I would be glad to help you out. Fortunately I already have a few plans here in which you can start with:

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=321315004
5x5 plan


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&p=327158583
Hypertrophy Plan

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=331731288
Bodyweight exercises

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=332710367
Creatine Dosing

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=335896241
Bulking Diet, workout, and supplement guide

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=337078542
Supplement Guide

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=21269614&f=60&p=337501104
Macro Guide


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Dec 28 2010 11:12pm
Quote (luca007 @ Dec 28 2010 04:35am)
Thanks for the info ! I have a few more questions if you don't mind.

1.Is there any effective method of adding lean muscle (if i am trying to go up to a certain weight) without having go on a "eat anything and everything" plan for 8 months to gain 40 pounds + 10% bf and then go on a 4 month cutting plan?

2.Is it better to do every single rep/exercise until failure or  80-90% until failure in first 1-3 sets while adding weight, 100% failure on the last heaviest set ?

3. Is there an absolute hardcore exercise for the lower 2 abs, it seems that my 6 pack is developing fine, but almost no site of the lower 2 abs to get an 8 pack ( I did see your link about getting 6-8 pack abs)

4. Can I improve my plan in any way for maximum effectiveness? ( I try to completely destroy a muscle and give it 2 days recovery) day 1 : shoulders and abs (rear mid, front delts focusing heavily on front), day 2 : Legs , day 3: back and abs, day 4: chest and triceps , day 5 biceps and abs, day 6: rest, repeat

Thanks!



if you wish to remain lean year round, you would have to only do CLEAN bulks with VERY specific macro and nutrient intakes as well as additional HIIT cardio post workout at certain points when needed.

failure is basically the only way of knowing you have FULLY used every ounce of muscle to perform a certain exericse. Doing the failure sets as illustrated in the hypertrophy plan will INCREASE your muscle building output moreso than other plans. So stick to the original requirements.

to hit the lower 2 abs you need to be using the legs - hanging leg raises hit the lower abs the most of any ab exercise (at least so I have PERSONALLY have found). Grabbing a dumbbell with your feet while doing them is exceptionally effective.


lastly, everyone is different. For some people the best approach is the plan you mentioned. For others, hitting 3x bodyparts a day for 2 days in a row, then taking a day or two off, works better. It all depends. You need to experience it all for yourself and see which things are more effective in the way of workout planning. However, as a rule of thumb, if you annihilate a muscle group it will require at least 3-4 days to fully heal.
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Dec 28 2010 11:14pm
Hey what spices do u put on ur chicken breast?

and how do u cook them? fry in olive oil? how long do u fry them?

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Dec 28 2010 11:15pm
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Dec 28 2010 11:15pm
Quote (MegaVovaN @ Dec 28 2010 05:02am)
Hey raynor,

Is there a good way to learn how to do a power clean? I find it really difficult to learn, the bar always crashes into my collar bone, which hurts like hell.


short of me sending you over to youtube to watch some videos...I can say this...to elliminate the collarbone crash, arch your back slightly and allow the weight to rest on your deltoids and not the collarbone. If you still have the problem, I suggest just watching how-to videos and try to recreate it with JUST the bar. once your form is perfect, go from there.
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