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Sep 7 2018 06:15am
Quote (CMBurns @ Sep 7 2018 11:45am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMv_Mlvr1FY

Even on a max effort, there's nowhere near the rounding that happened in your vid.

Anyway, obviously rounding your lower back is much worse. I'm just recommending you work on strengthening your upper back and shoulders otherwise as you go heavier, your upper back rounding is going to shift where your centre is and you'll find yourself trying to pull upwards too much. Note that your rounding was a lot more pronounced than in the video you're using as an example.

If you observe the top athletes doing sumo deadlift for example, you'll see how much leverage they get from positioning their upper body differently.

I'm telling you this because I had the same problem you did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aa1VijSZrk (scroll towards the end for the farmer's walk practice).

My max deadlift was 795, at the time of the video it was around 700 tho (it's a bit easier with farmer's walk handles. The last set is with 380/hand). I went from having a rounded upper back at lower weights, to a rounded back in general as I went up in weights. It was starting to cause some annoying back pains and deadlift sessions always felt awful. I went to see a guy whose gym I trained that (Hugo Girard who was a top strongman) and got some coaching on deadlifting. I ended up doing a bunch of exercises like banded deadlift, really heavy upright rows, partial deadlifts, etc. Focused on pulling back (which allows you to drive your hips forward faster) rather than just pulling up and adjusted my form. Obviously there's going to be some rounding, but I kept it in check enough that I no longer had back pains and the weight went up another 95 lbs within a year.



I agree that I should work on my weaknesses. My favorite accessories are heavy rows like Cailer Woolam “powerlifting rows, db rows, pendlay”, banded deadlifts, and 5 sec paused deadlifts. My only thing is that my shoulders rounding isn’t form breakdown BECAUSE it puts me in optimal position to pull heavy, and at the end of the day the guy who pulls the heaviest wins.

When I pull sumo, my back maintains a neutral position. People have told me that my sumo looks way more natural, but I’ve never been able to generate anywhere near as much power.

But I take everything people say that’s constructive and see if I can implement it, so I’ll give er a shot. Oh, and PRs are never pretty 💩

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Sep 7 2018 07:02am
Quote (CMBurns @ Sep 7 2018 03:45am)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMv_Mlvr1FY

Even on a max effort, there's nowhere near the rounding that happened in your vid.

Anyway, obviously rounding your lower back is much worse. I'm just recommending you work on strengthening your upper back and shoulders otherwise as you go heavier, your upper back rounding is going to shift when your centre is and you'll find yourself trying to pull upwards too much. Note that your rounding was a lot more pronounced in the video you're using as an example.

If you observe the top athletes doing sumo deadlift for example, you'll see how much leverage they get from positioning their upper body differently.

I'm telling you this because I had the same problem you did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aa1VijSZrk (scroll towards the end for the farmer's walk practice).

My max deadlift was 795, at the time of the video it was around 700 tho (it's a bit easier with farmer's walk handles. The last set is with 380/hand). I went from having a rounded upper back at lower weights, to a rounded back in general as I went up in weights. It was starting to cause some annoying back pains and deadlift sessions always felt awful. I went to see a guy whose gym I trained that (Hugo Girard who was a top strongman) and got some coaching on deadlifting. I ended up doing a bunch of exercises like banded deadlift, really heavy upright rows, partial deadlifts, etc. Focused on pulling back rather than just pulling up and adjusted my form. Obviously there's going to be some rounding, but I kept it in check enough that I no longer had back pains and the weight went up another 95 lbs within a year.



A static farmers walk 'pull' is nothing like a barbell deadlift JFL

How much have you deadlifted on a stiff straight bar with a vid showing your pulled back shoulders?

This post was edited by Excusemem8 on Sep 7 2018 07:03am
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Sep 7 2018 11:48am
Repeated my skwots after my garbage set earlier this week.. ended up working with a 425 estimated max, hit 340x9 with 2 left.

Headed to my first day at my new job, wish me luck ✌️
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Sep 7 2018 03:07pm
Quote (Excusemem8 @ 7 Sep 2018 09:02)
A static farmers walk 'pull' is nothing like a barbell deadlift JFL

How much have you deadlifted on a stiff straight bar with a vid showing your pulled back shoulders?


795 was my highest standard deadlift pull in the gym. That was about 7 or 8 years ago? The only videos I have of myself training are other people taping me.

I actually just bought my first ever cellphone today!
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Sep 10 2018 10:15am
Quote (CMBurns @ Sep 7 2018 09:07pm)
795 was my highest standard deadlift pull in the gym. That was about 7 or 8 years ago? The only videos I have of myself training are other people taping me.

I actually just bought my first ever cellphone today!



Got a lot to learn from anybody pulling that kind of weight. Again, it’s a difference of form, one is not more correct than the other but I definitely take what you say and try it out!

Update, 5s wave.. working on these maxes

545 dead
445 squat
265 bench

Today was 70% 6x5, last set I got 10.. did some lunges, light RDLs and messed around with negative tempo leg press.

Tomorrow is bench and I can’t wait to see what I can sling around
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Sep 11 2018 09:07am
I think I’m going to let this thread die off, this sub form is dead as fuck.

Last update, worked 70% for 6x5, last set was 12 reps. Did a shit load of accessory movements and called it. Feeling good, gonna keep grinding..

Thanks for following for so long, my journey isn’t done yet 👍
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Sep 11 2018 10:55am
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 11 2018 11:07am)
I think I’m going to let this thread die off, this sub form is dead as fuck.

Last update, worked 70% for 6x5, last set was 12 reps. Did a shit load of accessory movements and called it. Feeling good, gonna keep grinding..

Thanks for following for so long, my journey isn’t done yet 👍


Well people read it sucks u quit but yea how's ur bodyfat and shit doing?
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Sep 11 2018 11:45am
Quote (serialj0e @ Sep 11 2018 04:55pm)
Well people read it sucks u quit but yea how's ur bodyfat and shit doing?



It’s going really well, I’m sitting around 225 and nearly sub 20%. My numbers are higher than ever, my endurance is higher than ever and I feel better than ever..

It’s been a long journey to just get where I’m at now, but I’m finally starting to tune it and bring it all together.

I’ll make another thread dedicated to my meets, I’m done caring about gym PRs.
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Sep 13 2018 10:58am
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 11 2018 01:45pm)
It’s going really well, I’m sitting around 225 and nearly sub 20%. My numbers are higher than ever, my endurance is higher than ever and I feel better than ever..

It’s been a long journey to just get where I’m at now, but I’m finally starting to tune it and bring it all together.

I’ll make another thread dedicated to my meets, I’m done caring about gym PRs.


Eggcellent very happy for u
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Sep 13 2018 12:55pm
Holy cow nice, congrats
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