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Quote (Neptunus @ Sep 28 2018 04:52am)
I wouldn't be too worried about them. But that's just a personal choice at this stage. To me it sounds like alarmism.I would be worried if symptoms specific to the heavy metals in question would start to appear. If the symptoms are unspecific, then there's too many variables imo. Of course, if someone has a hypothesis on why could this cumulative cocktail have more toxicity than its parts individually, i would be glad to hear. If you still excrete them in other ways besides perspiration, i doubt you will accumulate amounts that break the threshold for heavy-metal-specific symptoms.

At bold: the substances you listed aren't somehow worse than what we encounter in nature only because of what they are. Animals from which we descend have evolved for millions of years to resist toxins, and my argument is that if perspiration were a useful method of excreting toxins, we would've probably seen a clearer example of that function already. It doesn't mean there definitely isn't such a function, but renders it more unlikely.



Well they might taste funny and medicines don't work if they don't taste funny :unsure:


ignoring it in the face of declining fertility and increasing rates of idiopathic chronic diseases and developmental conditions sounds more like apathy than my position does like alarmism

at bold 1: mental illness is pretty characteristic of exposure to various heavy metals although not specific to it, the effcts of low dose exposure to irritants tends to be nonspecific, and I think you know that

at bold 2: not also has synergistic toxicity as a phenomenon been demonstrated many times, at least as far as heavy metals go, but the sum of their parts being safe isn't something that people have even attempted to establish either as far as I know

at "at bold": Not all toxins are the same, surely you must realise that a type of toxin we have not been exposed to throughout the course of our evolution is something we are less likely to have been selected to be able to deal with, right? I also don't understand what example you're looking for? what about the use of sweat therapy throughout history to curb poisoning symptoms in cinnabar miners?


Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 27 2018 10:59pm)
That’s because perspiration isn’t a form of detoxing, it’s a form of thermoregulation.

But, my head hurt too much when I was staring at this thread, I decided to not even try.


:rolleyes:

because one bodily function cannot have two purposes

very very good

This post was edited by Condemn on Sep 28 2018 12:15am
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also a genuine question for neptunus, what's the effective difference between one study replicated 2 times and 3 similar but separate studies all with the same conclusions?
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ignoring it in the face of declining fertility and increasing rates of idiopathic chronic diseases and developmental conditions sounds more like apathy than my position does like alarmism

at bold 1: mental illness is pretty characteristic of exposure to various heavy metals although not specific to it, the effcts of low dose exposure to irritants tends to be nonspecific, and I think you know that

at bold 2: not also has synergistic toxicity as a phenomenon been demonstrated many times, at least as far as heavy metals go, but the sum of their parts being safe isn't something that people have even attempted to establish either as far as I know

at "at bold": Not all toxins are the same, surely you must realise that a type of toxin we have not been exposed to throughout the course of our evolution is something we are less likely to have been selected to be able to deal with, right? I also don't understand what example you're looking for? what about the use of sweat therapy throughout history to curb poisoning symptoms in cinnabar miners?




:rolleyes:

because one bodily function cannot have two purposes

very very good



Every bodily function has many purposes, don’t patronize me.

Sweat is comprised of 99.9% water, than the fraction of a % is comprised of other substances such as electrolytes and urea. But you’re not detoxing by sitting in a sauna, don’t be an idiot.. There are a plethora of health benefits to using a sauna, but the idea that you’re helping your body excrete toxins is the same level shit as people who speak to the CIA through their teeth.

The funny thing about science is just because you disagree doesn’t make it any less true

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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 28 2018 12:03pm)
Sweat is comprised of 99.9% water, than the fraction of a % is comprised of other substances such as electrolytes and urea. But you’re not detoxing by sitting in a sauna, don’t be an idiot.. There are a plethora of health benefits to using a sauna, but the idea that you’re helping your body excrete toxins is the same level shit as people who speak to the CIA through their teeth.


:rofl: :thumbsup:

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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 28 2018 10:03pm)
Every bodily function has many purposes, don’t patronize me.

Sweat is comprised of 99.9% water, than the fraction of a % is comprised of other substances such as electrolytes and urea. But you’re not detoxing by sitting in a sauna, don’t be an idiot.. There are a plethora of health benefits to using a sauna, but the idea that you’re helping your body excrete toxins is the same level shit as people who speak to the CIA through their teeth.

The funny thing about science is just because you disagree doesn’t make it any less true


intersting viewpoint my friend

may I ask what evidence you have based your position on? or should I just go ahead and assume that you saw a snarky title in some online article about how believing in detox through sweat is totally stupid and NOT what the science says

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Quote (Condemn @ Sep 28 2018 03:07pm)
intersting viewpoint my friend

may I ask what evidence you have based your position on? or should I just go ahead and assume that you saw a snarky title in some online article about how believing in detox through sweat is totally stupid and NOT what the science says


How about the fact that sauna use is contraindicated in people with CKD? I’ve been studying anatomy for 4 years.. I’m a nurse, and I’m working towards my MSN as a NP.. detoxing in a sauna is retarded, about as dumb as apple cider detox.

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but apple cider vinegar detox is OP
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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Sep 28 2018 12:31pm)
I’m a nurse, and I’m working towards my MSN as a NP..


:thumbsup:

What track?
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:thumbsup:

What track?



FNP eventually, I’d love to do flight nurse per diem for the state police and work a nice 9-5 mon/fri. I’ve been told to do ENP but I don’t want to work fast track my entire career

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