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Quote (derpykitty @ Feb 8 2024 12:52am)
ooooooooh yikes....
https://nitter.unixfox.eu/thefuzzstone/status/1755211469786906737

Quote (thefuzzstone)
This is very interesting, and very scummy to all Monero users and merchants.

Binance will delist XMR from spot trading, but not a price manipulation tool. [see the screenshot]
https://i.ibb.co/1rtq4fP/Image.png
It will be very interesting to see how the market reacts, and whether the market will consider these numbers on Binance as the real price of XMR. I hope not.

Quote (Ryit)
Because they don’t have to have XMR to offer this. Actually, this is worse than delisting outright. It leaves the exchanges with leverage to manipulate the price without any underlying ownership.

Quote (Niylvah)
It should be illegal. @binance you fucking hoe's

guess was right being skeptical about them ever actually fully delist it in all of its forms..........:
Quote (derpykitty @ Jan 6 2024 05:36am)
when the delisting finally happen, if it ever does (am still skeptical if they ever will cause they love doing the whole price manipulation and imo aintnoway they'll give that up and will just keep the charade going with scary tags of "high volatility" (which you would agree is a complete lie after calling it a stablecoin)), like, if it does ever happen, there will finally be real price discovery

https://moneroj.net/metcalfeusd/
fun fact, price started diverging from metcalfe's law when binance started listing it else expected price would have been like $5k in 2022, price manipulation from cex doing it's thing tho ya know:
https://i.ibb.co/fDqJr6X/image.png

the fight against those centralized entities hijacking the cryptosphere continues :bouncy:

lmao, binance already starting to do some shady shit on that derivative thingy:



https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1autwtf/binance_starting_to_mess_with_xmr_derivatives/

and 5 more hours before the official "delisting" (countdown: https://countingdownto.com/?c=5354050) and they yet again closing withdrawals again, staying true to their traditions like they always been doing:



anyways, in some other news, HavenoDEX is getting very close to release, a vote is currently happening for the council thingy part of it: https://haveno.exchange/blog/haveno-council-vote/
and Serai is also getting very close to release, can already do the techy thing to be a validator on testnet: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1amnrvk/serai_is_looking_for_testnet_validators/

decentralization all the way, fuck binance and all dem shady centralized entities hijacking the cryptospace
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Feb 20 2024 07:10pm
smh lol

"Fishy? Binance has delisted XMR but CoinMarketCap shows Binance trading over $15M worth in the last 24 hours. Screenshot taken at 2024-02-20 15:35 UTC time."
https://old.reddit.com/r/xmrtrader/comments/1avksr1/fishy_binance_has_delisted_xmr_but_coinmarketcap/


coinmarketcap is owned by binance

Quote (/u/fancyrolling)
Actually, looking at Binance's announcement it said
"we have decided to delist and cease trading on all trading pairs for the following token(s) at 2024-02-20 03:00 (UTC):". So it hasn't been a full 24 hours yet. I think we have another 12 hours to go. Still looks fishy with over $15M worth of XMR traded in less than 12 hours. Typical Coin Market Cap behavior in my opinion.

Quote (/u/fancyrolling)
As of 2024-20-02 19:29 UTC time, according to coin market cap, the USDT price of XMR on Binance is $118.69 while they report Kraken USDT price at $124.72. This make sense since the last price on Binance was probably $118.69 and hours later XMR has gone up to trade around $124.72. What is fishy still is the CMC reported volume of XMR/USDT on Binance, it should be dropping but it's staying the same.

Quote (/u/fancyrolling)
They deleted the XMR/BTC pair. Now only XMR/USDT remains on coinmarketcap.

Quote (/u/fancyrolling)
As of 21:00 UTC time, CMC is showing XMR/USDT on binance with 24H volume of $11,364,023 updated recently and XMR/BTC on binanance with 24H volume of $4,495,022 updated recently. Once again, those 2 reported volumes should be going down but they are not.

Quote (/u/fancyrolling)
As of 23:33 UTC time 2024-02-20, CMC has removed Binance XMR/BTC but is still showing XMR/USDT updated recently with $11,361,719 of volume. It could be that the volume window is not updating or it could be that Binance faked trading volume or both.

also, withrdrawals yet again disabled :bonk:


This post was edited by derpykitty on Feb 20 2024 07:14pm
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Apr 26 2024 10:29am
A message from Melatonina

https://alephiumgazette.com/the-impact-of-asics-on-pow-chains-like-alephium?showSharer=true

"end of the myth for XMR maxis

This post was edited by Bazi on Apr 26 2024 10:29am
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Quote (derpykitty @ Oct 28 2023)

- WHERE TO USE MONERO

  • https://shopinbit.com
    in europe: have computers, computer parts, laptops, phones, general electronic, bikes, electric bikes, sports/workout thingies, lineup for self care and such, cars, custom car license plate, bunch of thingies [...]
    they dont even requires a customer account (can still make one if you need package tracking but works well without), also have the "concierge service" which is basically personal shopper, can send them a link from anything like amazon or whatever, pay them in monero and they'll do the purchase for you
  • https://coincards.com
    USA/Canada giftcards/coupons for like amazon, some food/groceries and such (they released their numbers few months ago that monero got ahead of bitcoin from their userbase in USA)


- HOW TO ACQUIRE MONERO:
If you dont already have any other cryptocoins:

  • https://localmonero.co
    local sellers/buyers of monero, prefered option with less tracking and avoiding kyc would be with "cash by mail", "cash locally" or also "cash by ATM" which is giving an ATM code to the seller so they could withdraw cash directly from an ATM with it

  • https://haveno.exchange (WIP)
    currently not out yet, HavenoDEX (https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno) will be same principle as localmonero but as an actual decentralized exchange, it's a fork of https://bisq.network but based on monero instead of bitcoin


  • localmonero gracefully closed because haveno is finally out which is doing the same thing while being decentralized:

  • Haveno Reto is out, there can be other haveno networks but as of now, reto is the one that has been up and running with currently 72 open offers and keep growing:

    Release:
    https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/releases/

    Step By Step guide to get it working
    https://blog.nihilism.network/servers/haveno-client-f2f/index.html

  • https://coincards.com
    not just USA but now also available in EUROPE and AUSTRALIA

  • also, their stats for the month of june:
    Quote (coincards)
    Here's a breakdown of usage (by $ volume) on Coincards by percentage in June '24:

    #XMR: 34.4%
    #BTC (Onchain): 25.96%
    #USDC: 20.20%
    #ETH: 9.84%
    #LTC: 2.49%
    #Solana: 2.31%
    #Dogecoin: 2.09%
    #LightningNetwork: 2.08%
    #USDT: 0.58%
    #Dai: 0.04%
    #Matic: 0.01%
    #Dash: 0%

    Code
    https://x.com/CoinCards/status/1809702144288882870


  • https://shopinbit.com stats for the month of june:
    Quote (shopinbit)
    What has happened here?? Our stats for June are here and the results are, well, see for yourself:

    #Monero 74,54 %
    #Bitcoin 23,64 %
    #LightningNetwork 1,73 %
    FIAT 0,08 %

    Code
    https://x.com/shopinbit/status/1811651225005195471



Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 6 2024)

Monero jan 6th - july 12th: $155 then, $159 now
Zephyr jan 6th - july 12th: $18.97 then, $2.99 now

Quote (derpykitty @ Jan 4 2024)
people like you shilling numbers go up over shilling proper opsec are the reason why:
https://web3isgoinggreat.com

She amazing:


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Quote (Melatonina @ Jan 4 2024)
Someone is mad his coin doesn't stand a chance against btc lmao

https://finbold.com/cryptocurrency-dethrones-btc-payments-in-europes-biggest-bitcoin-store/

Quote (Bazi @ Apr 26 2024)


remember this?:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitmain-can-remotely-shut-down-your-antminer-and-everyone-elses

hardware centralization through a single corporation having close to 100% of bitcoin's hashrate (and having had purposely implemented backdoor in that hardware), giving that 1 single corporation total control of the bitcoin network
nothin wrong with that right? lol
dumbasses

please remind me again of bitcoin's whitepaper? what is it supposed to be?
satoshi wanted it to be "Peer 2 Peer electronic cash", as he talked about and written in the whitepaper

when bitcoin started, every node was a mining node, every computer, laptop and whatnot were supporting and securing the network
which is not the case anymore
now full nodes are mostly ran by chain analysis companies to collect even more data (including IP addresses and such) from people using light wallets

as he wrote on bitcointalk in some of his posts, he had plans to remove the blocksize limit so it could actually scale on layer 1 and to be used as an actual Mean of Exchange and to be what was always intended to be "Peer to Peer electronic cash"
but this never happened, bitcoin and its development has been hijacked for years now
and the new narative pushed by those that became in control of bitcoin is that "it's not supposed to be Peer to Peer electronic cash but a Store of Value"
so... 7 transactions per second limitation due to the fixed blocksize, they tried to sell the idea of "layer 2 will solve this" (Lightning Network etc) but it clearly failed at that

while what got bitcoin started in the first place was by those adopting it for the circular economy (ross ulbrich's silk road etc etc)
it never ever would have worked if the whitepaper was "so guys, I just made that thing, is so that u can speculate on its price and cuz store of value then is like u got that mona lisa electronically but u cant exchange them for goods and services, its not meant for that, only for speculative investment"
like nah, it's because people, bunch of everyday people saw value in something that could be used to transact goods and services between other regular everyday people
which... there was still a need for that since bitcoin couldnt do that anymore so that's were monero came in

2018 was when there was a bunch of new cryptoscamcoins using "masternodes"
basically, random devs just copy pasting the code of other coins, adding a "pre-mine" so that the 1 single dev would get like... idk some random number like lets say "20%" of all the coins that will ever exist
and could sell those to the users of that new cryptoscamcoin because to run a "masternode" they had to have a certain amount of that cryptoscamcoin locked in
so that was literally IRL infinite money glitch
step 1: make a new coin and assign yourself 20% of it
step 2: sell those previously self-assigned coins to gullible people so they can run their "masternode"
step 3: profit, ditch the project and make an other one, rinse & repeat, infinite money glitch

both bitcoin and monero didnt have a premine

2021 was when the whole NFT train got cringier and cringier, meme "tokens" (that are not even cryptocoins with their own blockchain but often just some erc-20 token on the ethereum blockchain made by people without any technical knowledge)

so, there is and has been alot of distractions over the years preventing people to see where actual value comes from
it's getting there tho
the need to exchange goods and services is the base of every society, bitcoin could have been the electronic mean to do that, only if the cipherpunks that made it kept it as it was supposed to be

Quote (derpykitty @ Oct 28 2023)

the original cipherpunks that made and adopted bitcoin moved to monero a long time ago
some would even speculate that nicholas van saberhagen that wrote the cryptonote whitepaper to which monero was based on and satoshi nakamoto (that made bitcoin) is the same person, but it's just speculation and honestly, it doesnt even matter
what matters is not the speculation but what it actually does as of today and as of today, monero works as a mean of exchange, has been adopted for that and took over bitcoin in that department, which I would argue is the most important aspect for a "cryptoCURRENCY", to be used as actual currency
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Quote (moonbeam420 @ Jul 13 2024 02:55pm)
https://finbold.com/cryptocurrency-dethrones-btc-payments-in-europes-biggest-bitcoin-store/



remember this?:
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/bitmain-can-remotely-shut-down-your-antminer-and-everyone-elses

hardware centralization through a single corporation having close to 100% of bitcoin's hashrate (and having had purposely implemented backdoor in that hardware), giving that 1 single corporation total control of the bitcoin network
nothin wrong with that right? lol
dumbasses

please remind me again of bitcoin's whitepaper? what is it supposed to be?
satoshi wanted it to be "Peer 2 Peer electronic cash", as he talked about and written in the whitepaper

when bitcoin started, every node was a mining node, every computer, laptop and whatnot were supporting and securing the network
which is not the case anymore
now full nodes are mostly ran by chain analysis companies to collect even more data (including IP addresses and such) from people using light wallets

as he wrote on bitcointalk in some of his posts, he had plans to remove the blocksize limit so it could actually scale on layer 1 and to be used as an actual Mean of Exchange and to be what was always intended to be "Peer to Peer electronic cash"
but this never happened, bitcoin and its development has been hijacked for years now
and the new narative pushed by those that became in control of bitcoin is that "it's not supposed to be Peer to Peer electronic cash but a Store of Value"
so... 7 transactions per second limitation due to the fixed blocksize, they tried to sell the idea of "layer 2 will solve this" (Lightning Network etc) but it clearly failed at that

while what got bitcoin started in the first place was by those adopting it for the circular economy (ross ulbrich's silk road etc etc)
it never ever would have worked if the whitepaper was "so guys, I just made that thing, is so that u can speculate on its price and cuz store of value then is like u got that mona lisa electronically but u cant exchange them for goods and services, its not meant for that, only for speculative investment"
like nah, it's because people, bunch of everyday people saw value in something that could be used to transact goods and services between other regular everyday people
which... there was still a need for that since bitcoin couldnt do that anymore so that's were monero came in

2018 was when there was a bunch of new cryptoscamcoins using "masternodes"
basically, random devs just copy pasting the code of other coins, adding a "pre-mine" so that the 1 single dev would get like... idk some random number like lets say "20%" of all the coins that will ever exist
and could sell those to the users of that new cryptoscamcoin because to run a "masternode" they had to have a certain amount of that cryptoscamcoin locked in
so that was literally IRL infinite money glitch
step 1: make a new coin and assign yourself 20% of it
step 2: sell those previously self-assigned coins to gullible people so they can run their "masternode"
step 3: profit, ditch the project and make an other one, rinse & repeat, infinite money glitch

both bitcoin and monero didnt have a premine

2021 was when the whole NFT train got cringier and cringier, meme "tokens" (that are not even cryptocoins with their own blockchain but often just some erc-20 token on the ethereum blockchain made by people without any technical knowledge)

so, there is and has been alot of distractions over the years preventing people to see where actual value comes from
it's getting there tho
the need to exchange goods and services is the base of every society, bitcoin could have been the electronic mean to do that, only if the cipherpunks that made it kept it as it was supposed to be


the original cipherpunks that made and adopted bitcoin moved to monero a long time ago
some would even speculate that nicholas van saberhagen that wrote the cryptonote whitepaper to which monero was based on and satoshi nakamoto (that made bitcoin) is the same person, but it's just speculation and honestly, it doesnt even matter
what matters is not the speculation but what it actually does as of today and as of today, monero works as a mean of exchange, has been adopted for that and took over bitcoin in that department, which I would argue is the most important aspect for a "cryptoCURRENCY", to be used as actual currency


didn’t read any of this
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Quote (Bazi @ Jul 14 2024)
didn’t read any of this

so shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of this thread
rather than posting garbage like this:
Quote (Bazi @ Apr 26 2024)


which:
monero april 26th - july 14th: $119 then, $157 now
alephium april 26th - july 14th: $2.48 then, $1.03 now

seen people getting unalived for less than that, people like you shilling straight garbage to people that end up loosing money because of shit like that
so, shut the fuck up, for your own safety before u make someone loose money and they would try to have a word with you to have their money back that u made them loose

or u know, that melatonia dude that been shilling the zephyr thing which went from his post to now went from like 18 bucks to 2 bucks
so yea, just a life advice for you, shut the actual fuck up lmao :thumbsup:
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Quote (moonbeam420 @ Jul 13 2024 07:43pm)
so shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of this thread
rather than posting garbage like this:


which:
monero april 26th - july 14th: $119 then, $157 now
alephium april 26th - july 14th: $2.48 then, $1.03 now

seen people getting unalived for less than that, people like you shilling straight garbage to people that end up loosing money because of shit like that
so, shut the fuck up, for your own safety before u make someone loose money and they would try to have a word with you to have their money back that u made them loose

or u know, that melatonia dude that been shilling the zephyr thing which went from his post to now went from like 18 bucks to 2 bucks
so yea, just a life advice for you, shut the actual fuck up lmao :thumbsup:


Who's multi are you?
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Quote (SBD @ Jul 14 2024)
Who's multi are you?

yeah... honestly i wouldnt even know, just too many voices in my head...

Quote (moonbeam420 @ Jul 12 2024)

they have a website now!:
https://haveno-reto.com/
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Quote (moonbeam420 @ Jul 18 2024)
they have a website now!:
https://haveno-reto.com/


there's a PSA on the website that there currently is DDoS attacks on haveno reto seed nodes
it's more like a slight inconvenience and doesnt affect the network nor its fuctionality
unlike D2JSP that few days ago had to go down for like 12 whole hours...

seed nodes, whether its for cryptocoins or that type of networks are hardcoded IP addresses in the code that are used when starting up the software to connect to the rest of the networks
for cryptocoins can literally just manually add different nodes through parameters like --add-priority-node=[ip_address] or things like that, so, they're more like a convenience type thing

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PSA: Network Issues Alert

2024-07-19


We are currently experiencing some issues due to a DDoS attack on the seed nodes. The trade experience itself is not impacted once you are connected to the Haveno-reto network and your orderbook has loaded.

You may encounter the following:

  • Delayed startup:
    Launching Haveno might take longer than usual.

  • Incomplete orderbook:
    You may initially see a partial orderbook or receive a "filter object error." The orderbook will load in with time, but this can take up to an hour. The filter object error can be ignored for now.


Recommendations:

  • Please be patient during the startup and synchronization process.
  • If possible, keep your client open to maintain network connectivity.
  • For the best experience, consider leaving Haveno running in the background when not in use.


We are in the process of migrating seednodes to Tor PoW protection. These issues should be resolved in the coming weeks.
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