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Jan 21 2024 11:11am
Top coins at BitcoinVN in 2023

  • 1. BTC 49.9%
  • 2. XMR 17.8%
  • 3. BCH 11.7%
  • 4. ETH 11.1%
  • 5. LTC 2.7%

https://bitcoinvn.io/news/bitcoin-cash-usage-in-vietnam/

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Bitcoin Cash holds a respectable third place behind / alongside the two “giants” (Bitcoin and Ethereum) and the world’s favourite privacy coin Monero.



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This puts Bitcoin Cash far ahead of another “old school”, “cheap transactions” proof-of-work coin such as Litecoin.

What are some possible explanations that Bitcoin Cash remains in such a comparatively strong position in Vietnam versus the global market share?

While the Bitcoin Cash community in recent years has not exactly seen much growth and largely consists of OG users who “fell on the other side of the fork” at the end of the Blocksize wars in 2017, one has to concede that the Bitcoin Cash community indeed consists to a comparatively large degree of actual users of the currency.

Given that a fair share of the users of BitcoinVN consists of Digital nomads living in Vietnam, earning their income online and regularly being Individuals with limited banking accessibility, utilizing cryptocurrencies such as Monero, Litecoin or Bitcoin Cash to pay their bills in Vietnam is a convenient and practical choice.
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Jan 23 2024 02:48pm
https://nitter.net/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1749875272524898507

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Completed my first #Bitcoin to #Monero Atomic Swap with @SamouraiWallet Swap.

Monero doesn't need centralized exchanges.

https://code.samourai.io/wallet/comit-swaps-java/-/releases



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Congrats on completing your first Bitcoin to Monero Atomic Swap! Its remarkable to see how Moneros decentralized nature eliminates the reliance on centralized exchanges. The ability to transact securely and privately is undoubtedly a game-changer.

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Especially since we see exchanges like CoinEx that will gladly take your XMR but then demand you ID yourself to withdraw.

CEXs need to go extinct. And these atomic swaps make them look like the dinosaurs they are.

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Jan 24 2024 03:29pm
I guess that's a success :) around 10k usd of liquidity, which is fine and enough for viets

"not an american" should have guessed earlier ..
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Jan 30 2024 06:24am
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- WHERE TO USE MONERO



2/3 multisig escrow implemented at moneromarket.io, announcement:
https://nitter.mint.lgbt/monero_market/status/1750185669304127783

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Steps
1. Buyer, seller, and Monero Market create the 2/3 multisig wallet
2. Buyer funds wallet
3. Everyone uploads their Partial Key Image file
4. Seller delivers good / service

( trade is successful, cancelled, or disputed )

5. Sign and submit transactions
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Feb 2 2024 06:07am
The Biden Administration Wants To Create A Registry Of Bitcoin Miners:
https://tftc.io/eia-bitcoin-mining-survey/


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Upon review, it proves to be one of the more Orwellian things I've seen come out of this Administration. And that's saying a lot. If you dig into the information that the EIA is requesting, it looks as if the EIA is setting out to create a hyper-detailed registry of mining operations in the United States. Getting as granular as to request specific information about mining fleets and hashrate data. And as with any Dystopian edict put forth by a government gone mad with perceived power, the survey starts out with an overt threat.


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Not only does it start with a threat, but it requires that "ALL commercial cryptocurrency mining facilities in the United States" respond. This is utterly insane. Before we opine on the insanity, let's dive into the information the government is expecting the mining industry to fork over.

Miners will be expected to provide information about their companies, where their domiciled, and the addresses of where their operations are located. As well as a point of contact for the EIA.

The companies will also be required to identify whether they are running operations that involve Proof of Stake or Proof of Work consensus mechanisms.

They will then need to tell daddy government how many mining facilities they operate.

After that, they will be expected to disclose the location of their individual operations, including GEOGRAPHIC COORDINATES, and the amount of electricity that was consumed at the facility all together, regardless of whether or not the miner has any control of the electricity that it is not using.

From there they will have to disclose the percentage of the facility's electricity consumption that was used specifically for mining and doxx their electric service provider.

Next up, they will have to somehow come up with the average percentage of all the electricity dedicated to bitcoin mining at different energy suppliers and, again, doxx them.

And last, but certainly not least, miners will be expected to give detailed information about their mining fleets. The EIA wants to know the number of ASICs miners are running at individual facilities, the models of the miners (which will be determined by cross referencing the age of the miner with different model releases), the amount of energy needed to power those mining machines, and the maximum amount of hashrate they produced during the reporting period.

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This is one of the most egregious encroachments on privacy and free markets that I have ever seen. It is so egregious that it is hard not to believe that this survey is anything less than a first step that leads down a path toward an all out attack on the mining industry in the United States. This survey serves as a way for the federal government to tag each individual operation within the country. They are going as far as to demand geographic coordinates from companies.

Funnily enough, the only other country to request information like this from the bitcoin mining industry operating in their borders is Venezuela, and they quickly confiscated operations and began mining for themselves once they knew where all of the miners were located. It would be naive to think that a federal government drunk on debt, losing control of the narrative, desperate for a scapegoat, and cognizant of the threat to its power over the money printer posed by bitcoin's success would not resort to similar tactics.

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If you are an operator in the bitcoin mining industry in the US it is imperative that you ignore this survey and tell the EIA, the Department of Energy, and the current administration to fuck off. Bitcoin miners are law abiding electricity purchasers who are engaging in mutually beneficial economic contracts with power providers who are trying to optimize their revenue streams so that they can profit more and invest in providing more reliable services to their end customers. The continued attempts to discriminate against the bitcoin mining industry should be seen as nothing less than harassment and unconstitutional.

With that being said, this should be and has been expected for many years. What was once a hypothetical "what happens when the government begins creating a registry of miners?" is now a reality and the reaction from the industry will dictate the fate of bitcoin mining in America.

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And for your Statist friends in the mining industry, just highlight the gross lack of cybersecurity the government has when handling data. If you want your corporate secrets like this leaked in a database breach, compliance with this survey would be a good way to leak them. There are numerous examples to point to of govt IT systems being breached and leaked.


meanwhile, like posted on an other thread regarding RandomX
(that unlike bitcoin, monero is being mined with everyday's computer CPUs that can be very low powered rather than those single purpose ASICs on bitcoin which are using so much more energy) :

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at around 36:45 on this monerotopia panel, articmine (the old dude in the middle) explains pretty well how with proof of work it can just be mined without even the energy companies wondering about what's going on:

basically, with excess energy from solar panels for example during summer in australia (a country that's been heading torward heavy anti-encryption laws for the past few years)
it's excess energy that has to be used somehow and the excess heat can even be redirected to heat the swimming pool lol

or in winter, homes are expected to use more power from the grid from heaters, can heat the home with computers instead and the energy bill is being offset by those mining rewards so pretty much free heating in winter and to the energy companies, it's just regular winter use of heaters

or in alaska, could have both, solar panels and free heating
and literally no one even has to know because it's energy that is expected to be used or literally excess energy that has to be used regardless

regardless, one should be able to scale operation without gov overreach, bitcoin miners included

This post was edited by derpykitty on Feb 2 2024 06:35am
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Feb 3 2024 02:28am
The problem with monero is its a step more complicated and not as straightforward as bitcoin/Eth etc..

But potential is there
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Feb 3 2024 03:05am
what would be that "more complicated step" and how is it not as straightforward tho?

because for ease of use and non-tech savvy required, can literally just on-ramp from the cakewallet app and use it as a currency to pay for services from there as well
it really is straight forward and not complicated
the other day wanted to tip someone that didnt even know about crypto thingies at all, was so damn fast like literally they installed the app fromn apple store, i just scanned the QR code and done

and the thought of even having to use bitcoin, i wouldnt know how anymore
few years ago i used to run a bitcoin full node, manually signing transactions from the CLI and all that techy stuff
back then we just didnt care, but now... how do u even transact bitcoin properly? i just do not have the technical knowledge for that
mixers are way too many steps, way too complicated and not even an option since their use is flagged as suspicious activity
and you can't control what other people will be doing with the bitcoins you sending them so... yeah, am just too retarded for bitcoin, it's way above my paygrade lol

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awesome news, official binance delisting on february 20th (d2r ladder reset on the 22nd lol)

so meanwhile, they just pushing that price wayyy wayyy down so they can replenish their empty wallet at a lower price to eventually pay back some of those customers that still can't withdraw
last month they closed withdrawal on the 15th for 22 hours straight, then later again in january and again today which they expect to leave withdrawals closed till tomorrow (or more lol)
while obviously, as usual, still leaving deposits open, can't withdraw tho :bonk:



coingecko doesn't even show kraken anymore on the list of exchanges for monero (it was still earlier today) because of the price difference between binance and kraken lmao
meanwhile, can actually withdraw those coins from kraken but not binance because kraken proof of reserve is actually legit and they actually have the coins that they claim they have, binance doesnt

coming months will be when real price discovery can finally start, well, some more centralized exchanges can still take over with their fake volumes, fake order book, fake price while keeping withdrawals closed for months (for example htx/poloniex closed withdrawals for months) but so far binance was the biggest griefter

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awesome news, official binance delisting on february 20th (d2r ladder reset on the 22nd lol)

so meanwhile, they just pushing that price wayyy wayyy down so they can replenish their empty wallet at a lower price to eventually pay back some of those customers that still can't withdraw
last month they closed withdrawal on the 15th for 22 hours straight, then later again in january and again today which they expect to leave withdrawals closed till tomorrow (or more lol)
while obviously, as usual, still leaving deposits open, can't withdraw tho :bonk:

https://i.ibb.co/Srz5PT3/Image.png

coingecko doesn't even show kraken anymore on the list of exchanges for monero (it was still earlier today) because of the price difference between binance and kraken lmao
meanwhile, can actually withdraw those coins from kraken but not binance because kraken proof of reserve is actually legit and they actually have the coins that they claim they have, binance doesnt

coming months will be when real price discovery can finally start, well, some more centralized exchanges can still take over with their fake volumes, fake order book, fake price while keeping withdrawals closed for months (for example htx/poloniex closed withdrawals for months) but so far binance was the biggest griefter


In short.

Today I lost 32% and am coping badly with this.
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Quote (SBD @ Feb 6 2024 05:25pm)
In short.

Today I lost 32% and am coping badly with this.

in short, the price is not real if you can't withdraw

in short, today great shopping day to buy the dip
back in 2018 when btc went down to $4k people were telling me "bitcoin is dead" i was like "dude, u cringe, i buying the dip like whatever u know"
same shit, copium aint from my side, nw
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