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Jan 23 2020 11:04am
Quote (Shannon @ 23 Jan 2020 17:52)
Sorry i'm voting no.

Signatures can get so busy (obnoxiously so) - so having that limit, also limits that :P

I also use my phone to scroll through JSP when out and about - I dont want to have my data eaten up by large signatures. If that changed sure I could turn off viewing signatures, but I like seeing them :P

Your signature is great, and only 33.15 KB :D


Thats not answer.
Thats your Data..im on mobile nonstop too.

In 2007 you joiined this site and there werent iphones as today are..we used site in notebooks or computers so?

My signature i can edit but is limited to 70kb and so i cannot create it like i want with nice effects to not loss Quality of signature.

All i say is look at that difference please,

2003 70kb

2020 is 17 years after that.

Look at Graphic Section how many users sell/buy/use Apng signatures or Gif even gif is old and bad quality and with 70kb..
Is super low quality grainy animated signature.

That u use Data is not answer for this Poll.
Thats your own life thing what u use to run this forums.
Use Wifi?

This post was edited by Hamm on Jan 23 2020 11:11am
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Jan 23 2020 11:14am
i have voted Yes for Every Member.

for those who vote no just because they want save their data volume (we are talking about a few more additional kilobytes but anyway..),
there is a function to hide user signatures ( https://forums.d2jsp.org/settings.php?c=0 ) :p

This post was edited by zetsubl on Jan 23 2020 11:15am
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Jan 23 2020 11:16am
Quote (zetsubl @ 23 Jan 2020 18:14)
i have voted Yes for Every Member.

for those who vote no just because they want save their data volume (we are talking about a few more additional kilobytes but anyway..),
there is a function to hide user signatures (https://forums.d2jsp.org/settings.php?c=0) :p



Nice

100% Mediators, Members++ etc.
Voted NO

And they dont know this function.

And they talk about Saving Theyr Data
They own life problem/things not community thing.

Thank you!

Thats the Answer.
Disable signatures when you use your jsp outside home on mobile data to chat post in forums only? :)

I see something is wrong when all mods(medis) are allways NO
In this Poll?


This post was edited by Hamm on Jan 23 2020 11:22am
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Jan 23 2020 11:17am
Quote (Hamm @ Jan 23 2020 12:04pm)
Thats not answer.
Thats your Data..im on mobile nonstop too.

In 2007 you joiined this site and there werent iphones as today are..we used site in notebooks or computers so?

My signature i can edit but is limited to 70kb and so i cannot create it like i want with nice effects to not loss Quality of signature.

All i say is look at that difference please,

2003 70kb

2020 is 17 years after that.

Look at Graphic Section how many users sell/buy/use Apng signatures or Gif even gif is old and bad quality and with 70kb..
Is super low quality aninated signature.

That u use Data is not answer gor this Poll.
Thats your own life thing what u use to run this forums.
Use Wifi?

data capacity is still a fair argument to make. one of the great things about this site is it's simplicity.
pictures "can" be removed from viewing, but as Shannon states, it's nice to see signatures on forum without taking much time to load.

this is really the only reason i recommended it for verified users. even this though, has a heavy fault i didn't address.
if a user afk's passed the due date of re-verifying, that user would then have a signature loaded that is above the allotment for unverified users. unless signature rights are removed or the user comes back.

thinking about it actually, unless the site forces you into keeping a size-limit, it would have to be given to everyone. otherwise it could create a rather large needless workload.
Quote (Hamm @ Jan 23 2020 12:19pm)
Answer previous post.

Disable it when you are out of home and use your Data.

Its not what this poll is about now :)

if this is the case, let the record show that i'm changing my vote.
from:
"Verified Members only as they pay $ every month for runing this forums, and so increasing/allowing signatures to 150kb for them can be more bonus for this payment.
(1 Votes)"
to:
"no"

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jan 23 2020 11:25am
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Jan 23 2020 11:19am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ 23 Jan 2020 18:17)
data capacity is still a fair argument to make. one of the great things about this site is it's simplicity.
pictures "can" be removed from viewing, but as Shannon states, it's nice to see signatures on forum without taking much time to load.

this is really the only reason i recommended it for verified users. even this though, has a heavy fault i didn't address.
if a user afk's passed the due date of re-verifying, that user would then have a signature loaded that is above the allotment for unverified users. unless signature rights are removed or the user comes back.

thinking about it actually, unless the site forces you into keeping a size-limit, it would have to be given to everyone. otherwise it could create a rather large needless workload.


Answer previous post.

Disable it when you are out of home and use your Data.

Its not what this poll is about now :)
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Jan 23 2020 11:31am
This is something that should of been done years ago.
On one side they cry oh our poor bandwidth and loading times cause they be on dial up/mobile... well fucking disable sigs then.
The site as a whole should not suffer cause of a few.
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Jan 23 2020 11:33am
Quote (King Atrhur @ 23 Jan 2020 18:31)
This is something that should of been done years ago.
On one side they cry oh our poor bandwidth and loading times cause they be on dial up/mobile... well fucking disable sigs then.
The site as a whole should not suffer cause of a few.


This

2020 year

Use whatever device you wants to run this site.

But in 2003 there werent iphones amd 70kb sigs ok.

But the h.ll we live in 2020 so please, give us 150kb :D
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Jan 23 2020 01:09pm
This is going to be a long math post addressing several others, because this has been fought, at length, a lot, and I can promise you that it will get denied.


Quote (R0cktaze @ Jan 23 2020 10:23am)
70KB is more than enough.
If we raise it to 150KB, than next years someone will ask for 300KB and there it goes, in 2 years everyone will have 10MB signature.

Not everyone use a computer to browse the forum and for that only reason i'm gonna vote no.
I don't wanna go trough my 4GB mobile data plan by refreshing a pages 10 times because of people using big signature.
We've been using 70KB as a legal size for over 17 years now i don't see any reason to change that.


This one has a few things to pick apart and is entirely defeated by icecool, who also voted no.
First, "next years someone will ask for 300KB and there it goes, in 2 years everyone will have 10MB signature." is entirely wrong.
This site was founded in 2003, and the signature rules predate my joining in 2007. Since 2007 they have been 70KB. You're telling me that in the event they increase signature size to 150KB for paid members for the first time in at least 13 years, that in 2 more years it will compound to 66* that amount? Get over yourself.

Second, let's assume that everyone has a 4GB mobile plan and browses exclusively this forum.
Assuming every user uses a signature (false) and every user used down to the KB the absolute maximum allotted (also false, see icecool) you'd see 7~ signatures before you even reached 1mb.
On a 4gb plan, if you browsed exclusively this site you're telling me you blow through nearly 7,000 posts to use even a quarter of your plan? That's 28,000 posts a month, dude. If you're running up your data by using JSP you have a lot more problems than a data cap or signature size.
Look at icecool, he's using a 9kb signature with a limit of 70. That's what, 12%? Just because the limit is going to increase (again, for paid users only) he's suddenly going to get a signature 16* the size?

The fact of the matter is, if it's a paid feature, there's really not much arguing it. On the data cap side, there's also no arguing it.
Take this entire page for example. The average of all of the posts so far is 42kb. IF you even doubled that, it's 84kb. Please stop using the mobile data argument. And that isn't even counting the fact that to most people, this is not something worth paying for.
Someone using 12% of the space allotted today and is happy with their signature will very obviously not pay more money to have the cap increased.

All that said, literally none of you design signatures. I haven't in MANY years and it was a strain getting size requirements even when I was active around 08-11ish. The size of resources has only grown and gotten much more high quality since then.



Quote (Shannon @ Jan 23 2020 10:52am)
Sorry i'm voting no.

Signatures can get so busy (obnoxiously so) - so having that limit, also limits that :P

I also use my phone to scroll through JSP when out and about - I dont want to have my data eaten up by large signatures. If that changed sure I could turn off viewing signatures, but I like seeing them :P

Your signature is great, and only 33.15 KB :D


See above.

Quote (King Atrhur @ Jan 2020 18:31)
This is something that should of been done years ago.
On one side they cry oh our poor bandwidth and loading times cause they be on dial up/mobile... well fucking disable sigs then.
The site as a whole should not suffer cause of a few.

I cry because you never text me back when I'm up late because I can't sleep. Solution to that?


@OP
I think it should be 150 for everyone, it makes it more attractive to be implemented as a paid feature because it will DRASTICALLY be ignored except to the few who see value in it.
That said, as I touched on before, it's going to get declined. It always has and always will.
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Jan 23 2020 01:37pm
Quote (Toddler @ Jan 23 2020 02:09pm)


I cry because you never text me back when I'm up late because I can't sleep. Solution to that?


@OP
I think it should be 150 for everyone, it makes it more attractive to be implemented as a paid feature because it will DRASTICALLY be ignored except to the few who see value in it.
That said, as I touched on before, it's going to get declined. It always has and always will.


Donate fg to me before every pm so I want to put up with ur pms ;)
I need sleep as well.
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Jan 24 2020 12:28pm
Quote (Toddler @ 23 Jan 2020 20:09)
This is going to be a long math post addressing several others, because this has been fought, at length, a lot, and I can promise you that it will get denied.




This one has a few things to pick apart and is entirely defeated by icecool, who also voted no.
First, "next years someone will ask for 300KB and there it goes, in 2 years everyone will have 10MB signature." is entirely wrong.
This site was founded in 2003, and the signature rules predate my joining in 2007. Since 2007 they have been 70KB. You're telling me that in the event they increase signature size to 150KB for paid members for the first time in at least 13 years, that in 2 more years it will compound to 66* that amount? Get over yourself.

Second, let's assume that everyone has a 4GB mobile plan and browses exclusively this forum.
Assuming every user uses a signature (false) and every user used down to the KB the absolute maximum allotted (also false, see icecool) you'd see 7~ signatures before you even reached 1mb.
On a 4gb plan, if you browsed exclusively this site you're telling me you blow through nearly 7,000 posts to use even a quarter of your plan? That's 28,000 posts a month, dude. If you're running up your data by using JSP you have a lot more problems than a data cap or signature size.
Look at icecool, he's using a 9kb signature with a limit of 70. That's what, 12%? Just because the limit is going to increase (again, for paid users only) he's suddenly going to get a signature 16* the size?

The fact of the matter is, if it's a paid feature, there's really not much arguing it. On the data cap side, there's also no arguing it.
Take this entire page for example. The average of all of the posts so far is 42kb. IF you even doubled that, it's 84kb. Please stop using the mobile data argument. And that isn't even counting the fact that to most people, this is not something worth paying for.
Someone using 12% of the space allotted today and is happy with their signature will very obviously not pay more money to have the cap increased.

All that said, literally none of you design signatures. I haven't in MANY years and it was a strain getting size requirements even when I was active around 08-11ish. The size of resources has only grown and gotten much more high quality since then.





See above.


I cry because you never text me back when I'm up late because I can't sleep. Solution to that?


@OP
I think it should be 150 for everyone, it makes it more attractive to be implemented as a paid feature because it will DRASTICALLY be ignored except to the few who see value in it.
That said, as I touched on before, it's going to get declined. It always has and always will.



So can i understand it as this increasing signature size in this forums, is Denied from the begining and will never happen?
Any official statement from Kevin, why it is not possible?

Mobile data is no reason as you can Dismiss any images/signatures on the site or Pms when you want to browse forums and save data.

So this Poll can be closed then, Nevermind from me then.

Its sad and now i will think if i will continue my Verified status,
its very good for me because i can post 10 Images in one post and i can edit posts longer time..
But i hoped something new, some new bonus could be implemented...

As i said, 150kb signature image size in 2020 is for sure only OK.
And i see so much Negatives from users who Dont Use animated signatures = this feature isnt for them and it will not Affect them in any chance, they just For some reason have to Deny this forever ...hm strange.


Poll can be closed, and i can say im a bit confused now and im a bit disappointed for the statement of some users because theyre negative arguments were seriously nonsense and not true..

2020 and so many users buying vs Fg super animated signatures, but they cant get even 150kb update from 70kb.

Hmm..

Nevermind from me then and Gl to all in new year.


PS/
I dont take this poll as a fail,
I wanted to help all graphic creators and all users...because for me its strange why so many years theres 70kb image rule and no change for so many years, but as we can see this is the example where some strange thing is happened..
So i take this poll as i know now that its not needed to create similair one never ever ^^

Also its nothing against Kevin ^^ or anyone ofcourse as i said,
this forums is great and i Thanks i can enjoy play trade and whatever ;)

Gl guys hope you all are fine in RL!

This post was edited by Hamm on Jan 24 2020 12:36pm
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