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Oct 11 2021 04:39pm
Hello, i just joined 1 week ago and i already got scam for 9k fg, i dont understand why there is no refund possible or anything to help people who get scam :

I understand than if a scammer have time to trade the stolen fg for items, it's hard to take back the fg to the legit trader (I mean in real life that what happens when people do bank fraud but w/e this is not real life here)

BUT most of the fg are used to be sold by scammers to random buyers out of the website. Since it's illegal to buy outside, these fg should be removed and refunded to the original owner...

W/e i'm not here to qq or blame the system.

My suggestion is : It would be great to add an insurance for people being scam. Like on each sales of FG on the website, you should take 0.01-0.05% of the total amount and saved it on a bank account focus on refunding people who have been scammed.

Like i tryharder so much for these 9K that not fair to just say, sorry your fg are gone, have a good day ++.

That my idea... thanks for reading.
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Oct 11 2021 04:57pm
Reference to https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=87169537&f=250?

Sorry to hear that man, to a 2014 user too. Sucks :(

You were giving him the benefit of the doubt too I guess, of going first.

Did you think about using a mediator?

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Oct 11 2021 04:58pm
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Oct 11 2021 05:06pm
Unfortunately d2jsp will not refund the fg of a scam: https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=14

However, you should keep giving as much evidence as possible for the S/A team in your topic. In case he is proven of scammer, the only way that user has to get rid of its tag is by repaying what he has stolen. While it’s not always like that, some scammers end up repaying what they’ve scammed.

Sorry for this bad experience you’re going through - let me give you some piece of advice: always use a Mediator - https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=11 . Doesn’t matter who you are trading with, this is the way you won’t ever get scammed, and it’s worth the wait.

However, I hope everything ends up just fine for you.
Have a good day!
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Oct 11 2021 05:14pm
Quote (Dragnaol @ 11 Oct 2021 18:39)
Hello, i just joined 1 week ago and i already got scam for 9k fg, i dont understand why there is no refund possible or anything to help people who get scam :

I understand than if a scammer have time to trade the stolen fg for items, it's hard to take back the fg to the legit trader (I mean in real life that what happens when people do bank fraud but w/e this is not real life here)

BUT most of the fg are used to be sold by scammers to random buyers out of the website. Since it's illegal to buy outside, these fg should be removed and refunded to the original owner...

W/e i'm not here to qq or blame the system.

My suggestion is : It would be great to add an insurance for people being scam. Like on each sales of FG on the website, you should take 0.01-0.05% of the total amount and saved it on a bank account focus on refunding people who have been scammed.

Like i tryharder so much for these 9K that not fair to just say, sorry your fg are gone, have a good day ++.

That my idea... thanks for reading.


Issues


You get scammed out of fg...that fg actually goes to another trade. Taking that fg would harm a different user



You get scammed out of an item..... the fg that user had was scammed from someone else. Who gets the fg?



Too many issues, you got scammed.... use a Meditator or trade items for items



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Oct 11 2021 05:15pm
If you go to a store and buy a gallon of milk.

On your way home you stop for some gas

Whilst inside someone breaks into your vehicle and steals your milk.

What do you think the store is gonna say if you contact them?

This post was edited by Vilify on Oct 11 2021 05:16pm
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Oct 11 2021 05:17pm
We should focus more on my suggestion guys <3 So far nobody ever spoke about it, the idea is quiet good tbh
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Oct 11 2021 05:18pm
Quote (vansq @ Oct 11 2021 04:06pm)
Unfortunately d2jsp will not refund the fg of a scam: https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=14

However, you should keep giving as much evidence as possible for the S/A team in your topic. In case he is proven of scammer, the only way that user has to get rid of its tag is by repaying what he has stolen. While it’s not always like that, some scammers end up repaying what they’ve scammed.

Sorry for this bad experience you’re going through - let me give you some piece of advice: always use a Mediator - https://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=11 . Doesn’t matter who you are trading with, this is the way you won’t ever get scammed, and it’s worth the wait.

However, I hope everything ends up just fine for you.
Have a good day!


Dragnaol makes a good point in his thread.

Quote (Dragnaol @ Oct 11 2021 01:53pm)
Did you have time to freeze the fg when i said it instantly like 5 sec after he left the game ? Coz i dont understand the whole point of losing 3 hours and sending 10 screenshots if i cant get my fg back...


That user looks like they already sent off the 9k FG, doubt he'll ever see it again.



Quote (Vilify @ Oct 11 2021 04:15pm)
If you go to walmart and buy a gallon of milk

On your way home you stop for some gas

Whilst inside someone breaks into your vehicle and steals your milk.

What do you think walmart's gonna say?


Doordash will give you a refund of $50 credits if you say 2 burgers came pink instead of no pink. And Amazon will refund you hundreds if you say package never arrived (if you've been a loyal customer and it's your first or so time)

But please, continue victim blaming the OP.

Some of you have zero sympathy and compassion for others, it's quite pathetic.

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Oct 11 2021 05:18pm
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Oct 11 2021 05:20pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Oct 11 2021 04:18pm)
Dragnaol makes a good point in his thread.



That user looks like they already sent off the 9k FG, doubt he'll ever see it again.





Doordash will give you a refund of $50 credits if you say 2 burgers came pink instead of no pink. And Amazon will refund you hundreds if you say package never arrived (if you've been a loyal customer and it's your first or so time)

But please, continue victim blaming the OP.

Some of you have zero sympathy and compassion for others, it's quite pathetic.


I'm not victim blaming anyone. I'm explaining why d2jsp is not liable nor do they need to be unless a med/mod was involved in the scam.
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Oct 11 2021 05:23pm
Quote (Vilify @ Oct 11 2021 04:20pm)
I'm not victim blaming anyone. I'm explaining why d2jsp is not liable nor do they need to be unless a med/mod was involved in the scam.


Yes you are. He's the victim in this case of a scam. And you're saying he shouldn't get his FG back because of an analogy of stolen milk from Walmart.

You do realize how that makes him feel (or anyone for that matter), right?

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Oct 11 2021 05:23pm
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Oct 11 2021 05:26pm
Quote (ChocolateCoveredGummyBears @ Oct 11 2021 04:23pm)
Yes you are. He's the victim in this case of a scam. And you're saying he shouldn't get his FG back because of an analogy of stolen milk from Walmart.

You do realize how that makes him feel, right?


Yes, and it's the harsh reality of MOST businesses. I am stating facts.

Drop a bottle outside a liquor store? The liquor store isn't going to replace it without another one being paid for.

Congrats on pointing out 2 gigantic "middleman" businesses whom aren't even the ones who make the products.

D2jsp is not at fault of the scam. Plus that would also open another can of worms in fake s/as.

Check this thread out: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=86742947&f=250

So Jsp could have wrongly paid out about 100k fg if they were to do what you're saying.

This post was edited by Vilify on Oct 11 2021 05:27pm
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