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Oct 12 2021 03:52pm
Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Oct 12 2021 05:43pm)
I said “vaccine” because a traditional vaccine protects from the virus in question or kills it off, not diminishes symptoms. I don’t give a fuck about mRNA as I’m not a scientist. I do however think the vaccine is a good idea for SOME, but forcing it makes no sense for some portions of the population (young, healthy, already exposed, health issues). Some issues are not one size fits all.

Why don’t you enlighten me in what I’m so wrong in since I’m only using information from the CDC and peer reviewed studies, should I be using word of mouth as my guide?


You actually just doubled down and there’s even more incorrect about this statement too.

Like I said, carefully look up what your claiming in its entirety. It’s not my job to educate you.

No kidding, you don’t work in the medical science field. Really? Lol.

I’d recommend speaking to someone who does.

Good luck.
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Oct 12 2021 03:54pm
Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Oct 12 2021 04:31pm)
Actually the CDC stated last week this “vaccine” doesn’t have much of an effect in transmission as once thought BUT does reduce the risk for hospitalization if you get Covid.

That said, most NBA athletes are in peak physical form (unless they play in PHI) AND 90% of the hospitalizations have been for 60+ with health issues.

So again, how does Kyrie Invings status affect anyone but himself if he is being tested and following social distance guidelines?

Link: Viral loads same in vaccinated and unvaccinated.
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20211001/Similar-viral-load-in-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-individuals-infected-with-SARS-CoV-2-Delta-variant.aspx

Let me know what other bullshit you want to spread.


No, that was a CDC study leaked by the New York Times saying viral loads were similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated people. But the study has serious limitations, and in any case doesn’t give the full picture on transmission. Hence why it wasn't an official statement by the CDC, and why they continue to say time and time again that the vaccination reduces the chances of infection.

Once again, people spewing bullshit stories on social media just going against the CDC and coming up with their own ideas. "Do your own research" meaning read what people share on these extremist facebook pages and follow along.

Sorry, but Brad the mechanic or Tim the farmer aren't going to know jack shit about this field so nobody is going to take them serious when they're challenging the actual experts. Well, nobody with common sense i mean. But like i said, it's political now and people are just following along.

This post was edited by Sixers on Oct 12 2021 03:55pm
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Oct 12 2021 04:00pm
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You actually just doubled down and there’s even more incorrect about this statement too.

Like I said, carefully look up what your claiming in its entirety. It’s not my job to educate you.

No kidding, you don’t work in the medical science field. Really? Lol.

I’d recommend speaking to someone who does.

Good luck.



So…. nothing of consequence to say aside from that I’m wrong for saying it’s each individuals right to get vaccinated or not based on their health, age, other factors?

Interesting, see this is why there is such division. Instead of a conversation you are treating me like an idiot with zero proof.

I do have a masters degree, in Math, so I do understand the statistics and risk for each age group. I also have been infected with Covid twice and studies show natural immunity to outweigh the vaccine. This risk/reward analysis was done for myself based on my own information. I would hope you would do the same instead of simply telling me I’m an idiot who misunderstands.

Best of luck to you, don’t be afraid of people or the air, I promise you’ll be fine.
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Oct 12 2021 04:02pm
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No, that was a CDC study leaked by the New York Times saying viral loads were similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated people. But the study has serious limitations, and in any case doesn’t give the full picture on transmission. Hence why it wasn't an official statement by the CDC, and why they continue to say time and time again that the vaccination reduces the chances of infection.

Once again, people spewing bullshit stories on social media just going against the CDC and coming up with their own ideas. "Do your own research" meaning read what people share on these extremist facebook pages and follow along.

Sorry, but Brad the mechanic or Tim the farmer aren't going to know jack shit about this field so nobody is going to take them serious when they're challenging the actual experts. Well, nobody with common sense i mean. But like i said, it's political now and people are just following along.



2 paragraphs about social media and idiots not knowing what’s right. So I’ve shown a peer reviewed study showing viral loads are equivalent in both sets of people, instead of spewing shit how about you give me some facts.

I’ll be more than happy to read.
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Oct 12 2021 04:03pm
Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Oct 12 2021 06:00pm)
So…. nothing of consequence to say aside from that I’m wrong for saying it’s each individuals right to get vaccinated or not based on their health, age, other factors?

Interesting, see this is why there is such division. Instead of a conversation you are treating me like an idiot with zero proof.

I do have a masters degree, in Math, so I do understand the statistics and risk for each age group. I also have been infected with Covid twice and studies show natural immunity to outweigh the vaccine. This risk/reward analysis was done for myself based on my own information. I would hope you would do the same instead of simply telling me I’m an idiot who misunderstands.

Best of luck to you, don’t be afraid of people or the air, I promise you’ll be fine.



Nobody said you’re an idiot, I’m telling you that you’re either misinformed or disingenuous and it’s probably just misinformed.

It happens. Once again, it’s not my job to educate you. I recommend you getting your information from people who work in the field, obviously.

It’s really quite simple.

Nobody is afraid of people or the air lol. But yea, all the best.
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Oct 12 2021 04:06pm
Quote (Sixers @ Oct 12 2021 05:54pm)
No, that was a CDC study leaked by the New York Times saying viral loads were similar for vaccinated and unvaccinated people. But the study has serious limitations, and in any case doesn’t give the full picture on transmission. Hence why it wasn't an official statement by the CDC, and why they continue to say time and time again that the vaccination reduces the chances of infection.

Once again, people spewing bullshit stories on social media just going against the CDC and coming up with their own ideas. "Do your own research" meaning read what people share on these extremist facebook pages and follow along.

Sorry, but Brad the mechanic or Tim the farmer aren't going to know jack shit about this field so nobody is going to take them serious when they're challenging the actual experts. Well, nobody with common sense i mean. But like i said, it's political now and people are just following along.


That’s also a huge thing. Makes me very grateful to be a Canadian. You have no idea..

It’s kind of disgusting IMO..

In the USA, the face mask has become a political statement.

In Canada and almost every other first world country, the face mask is a medical statement.

Huge difference and I’m happy to be on the end that I am.

World gone crazy bro 😂
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Oct 12 2021 04:06pm
Quote (umade @ Oct 12 2021 11:58am)
Is Kyrie the most retarded athlete? Considering the decisions he's been making.
He leaves Cavs when they have Lebron.
He thinks the earth is flat.
He doesn't want to vaccinate himself.
What more stupid stuff has he done?



Pretty sure he farted on brons moms pillow once and she got the worst pink eye it was sick. He was trying to pull a delonte but didn’t have crack like him so was denied, so he had to retaliate of course.
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Oct 12 2021 04:07pm
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Nobody said you’re an idiot, I’m telling you that you’re either misinformed or disingenuous and it’s probably just misinformed.

It happens. Once again, it’s not my job to educate you. I recommend you getting your information from people who work in the field, obviously.

It’s really quite simple.

Nobody is afraid of people or the air lol. But yea, all the best.



I just want to know where I am misinformed.

My own doctor has verified given my past 2 Covid infections with no issues means I have natural antibodies which are stronger than the vaccine. He suggested I don’t get the vaccine.
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Oct 12 2021 04:11pm
Quote (Xx Shin3d0wn xX @ Oct 12 2021 06:07pm)
I just want to know where I am misinformed.

My own doctor has verified given my past 2 Covid infections with no issues means I have natural antibodies which are stronger than the vaccine. He suggested I don’t get the vaccine.



Nobody is saying you didn’t develop antibodies by catching the virus, obviously

I’m going to assume you have underlying medical issues, otherwise I find it hard to believe a licensed doctor actually told you not to get the vaccine without them obviously.

And it was your (or whichever misinformed persons) take on viral load / spread that is incorrect.
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Oct 12 2021 04:16pm
Quote (FunkDoc @ Oct 12 2021 05:11pm)
Nobody is saying you didn’t develop antibodies by catching the virus, obviously

I’m going to assume you have underlying medical issues, otherwise I find it hard to believe a licensed doctor actually told you not to get the vaccine without them obviously.

And it was your (or whichever misinformed persons) take on viral load / spread that is incorrect.



What is misinformed about that study, actually curious.

I do not have an underlying condition. I spoke to my doctor at my last checkup and given my specifics (age) and the information about the vaccine he told me my natural immunity was stronger and had a longer shelf life. Now he also said this doesn’t mean if I didn’t get the vaccine that I should go out and get Covid but given I’ve already had it twice he said my protection was already higher than a vaccinated individual.

The idea that the vaccine is right for everyone (aside from those with health conditions) is not a fair statement.
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