Yea, the 2 was quite insane to be honest, but not logic, he had almost no screen time atall or anything

No didn't kill any humans. He let William's daughter go too.


Stubbs is just a human that sympathizes with the hosts. You can tell it upset him too see Abernathy and Bernard tortured . And at the end when he let Delores out.

i know right

Let's say you're right.

At the end, he said "she's clear" referring to the host that looked like Charlotte Hale and had Dolores' consciousness inside. He seemed to imply that he knew all along, thanks to prior instructions from Robert, that such a host would be trying to leave the park. Like he was in on it from the beginning with Ford. A human that was on board with the idea of letting hosts outside the park. If that's true, then every piece of his dialog in the show before the end must have ALL been a facade. He didn't care about park security. He didn't care about human lives. He was willing to play his part in this fiasco so that Robert's vision could come to fruition. He was loyal to Ford, even knowing that Ford wouldn't be around to stick up for him when he lost his job due to failing to secure the park and would never be able to get another job in security ever again.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jun 26 2018 07:16pm

At the end, we saw Dolores riding away with some host cores in her handbag. We can't be sure how many she had, but there were at least 5 or 6 visible on the top of the pile. What this means, essentially, is that the show has no rules and anything is possible:

-Any time the show wants to, it can decide to reveal that any supposedly human char had been replaced with a host version of himself years ago
-Any time we see a supposed host, the show could reveal that it had actually been implanted with the consciousness of a previous human guest in the park
-Any scene we see, the show could decide to later reveal that it had actually happened in the past or future and change our understanding of the story

Anything we see could be a lie. Now that Dolores is outside the park with Hale's identity and with a machine that can make hosts, the show is free to pull any tricks it wants. They could decide that:

Trump had visited the park in 1995 so they have his data. Dolores carried it out of the park at the and of S2. Dolores then killed the real Hilary Clinton and replaced her with a host replica of her body that contained Trump's consciousness. So the 2016 election was Trump running against himself in two different bodies.

Literally any silliness that you could imagine is now within the scope of the show.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jun 26 2018 08:06pm

Didn't he? Why was he killing hosts if he wanted to save them then?
Yeah the thing about William's daughter definitely throws a spanner in the works with that theory.. but she has clearly spent a lot of time with the Ghost nation and maybe that's why she was lumped into that group?

Im not sure but I definitely got the drift that Stubbs is a bot

I downloaded season 1. Planning on starting it tonight



Lmao the joke went way over your head goofrey.

So much for me having the simple mind



Oops seems I already responded

Afk

This post was edited by DefinitelyNotKimmy on Jun 27 2018 06:08am

Alright just watched episode 1. Pretty interesting for sure. Other than the obvious main characters in the fictional reality it's a little hard to distinguish exactly who's a host and who's a guest at this stage. Is that a pretty common theme throughout the show?

what a mindblowing finale... just watched it last night. I already feel like I need to watch season 2 again lol (already re-watched season 1 before i started 2).


i believe the episode's director (or someone of that nature) confirmed Stubbs is a host? it seems like that scene where Stubbs was talking to Delores (in Hale's body) strongly implies that, you can see Delores grin mid way through the conversation.

I don't think it was implying that at all. The only thing that scene showed was he hated Hale and Delos. He thinks of the hosts as living beings now. I think he's for sure a human.