i understand that, but nothing about my hardware changed aside from various graphics cards, and the only "software" change I had was a bios update for the ssd which shouldn't have had any negative impact.
ssd tests completely fine, ram tests completely fine, gpu fine as well (within its performance range on each card i had), so my only outlier was the cpu

literally nothing about my use-case scenario had changed within the time period of me owning the chip aside from never torrenting anymore because i'm lazy & gpu/bios like i mentioned.

my only other thought is misapplication of my liquid metal tim for the cpu die but i was extremely careful on first application of it and even ended up reapplying it down the road and it looked within spec from my first application when removing the ihs.
i had never bluescreened aside from an unstable undervolt once, bumped it up a tad and ran *plenty* of tests and played many games, never happened again. system performance just dropped over time even on a fresh install.

This post was edited by handlewithnocare on Aug 7 2019 01:32am

I would suspect the ASRock mobo- cheap brand and a rocky history. ASRock was an offshoot Asus did to compete with cheap OEM boards in prebuilt machines. The company has since been sold to Pegatron. I digress. The mobo is just a suspicion though. Removing the IHS and applying liquid metal is dangerous stuff. Doesn't really matter at this point since you can't easily diagnose that without having another Z97 and 4790k to swap everything out.

My only point was you don't know what was causing the system hang ups. it's unreasonable to blame Intel.

hey my child bogged down system and many unexperienced pc users bog down theirs too but its the cpu manufacturer lol

like I said user error




asrock is fine but yes unreasonable to blame
when I use to flip and fix pcs i'd find many users were bloatware knobs which pretty much caused many of the issues
but loved those that wanted to sell off perfectly fine machines for cheap cause they are going to get newest lol

What if you get blue screens after a fresh reinstall of windows after reformatting with nothing installed?
Also swapped out ram, still blue screen. Swapped out ssd. Still blue screen. Swapped out gpu. Still blue screen. Swapped out power supply. Still blue screen.

Motherboard and cpu issue?

Could be driver related even on fresh install.
Best bet would to post the mini dumps to have it evaluated

If the cpu/mobo was bought used and overclocked heavily by previous owner could that be an issue?

maybe? windows completely updated or newest build installed so many build versions of windows its work
there are many things to narrow it down to what though
i'd be looking at bluescreen error with bluescreenviewer/etc to give me insight of what is crashing

how is asrock extreme6 suspicious
please explain this one

u get 10fps more on a 9900k then the new ryzen ... but for specific titles... for 2-300$ more.. price per performance isnt worth... team blue isnt keeping up with team red... AMD is going to surpass intel in universal cpu... intel is becoming a niche targeted at people who do a ton of heavy multiple core work... 4k editing etc...

but Amd is less then 3% behind... now when they were 20-23% behind and they did it in less then 8months... so intels failing they also failed to reduce the di to 7nm while AMD did it... plus when the BIN an chip its horrible and you have to pay a premium for unlocked chips while amd just gives it too you out the box

@ bolded explain more
because amd smokes intel at price to performance in majority of work load tasks

things like adobe, cad, gaming, etc that take advantage of stronger cores (and that is only because of the higher clocks) and certain loads(avx) are intels only prize right now
amd smt is better than intels too