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Aug 8 2019 02:46pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 8 2019 04:40pm)
@ bolded explain more
because amd smokes intel at price to performance in majority of work load tasks

things like adobe, cad, gaming, etc that take advantage of stronger cores (and that is only because of the higher clocks) and certain loads(avx) are intels only prize right now
amd smt is better than intels too


intel is niche is pushing for streamers/video editing its whats theyve pushed since the 9900k was released... i tested my friends 9900k vs my streaming pc which is a 3700x


i absolutely agree with you that amd > hands down its cheaper and universally better

i might just had a meh chip but his 9900k beats my 3700x by 1.5-3% i also dont have my streaming pc oc very high

so could just be that... but since i stream regularly its a lot (i know oc doesnt degrade ur parts that much but still i dumped alot into the pc so eh)

https://www.techspot.com/article/1876-4ghz-ryzen-3rd-gen-vs-core-i9/ <- benchmarks gaming the 9900k beats the ryzen line fps wise... productivity side ryzen its 3-10% faster

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Quote (solicit @ Aug 8 2019 03:46pm)
intel is niche is pushing for streamers/video editing its whats theyve pushed since the 9900k was released... i tested my friends 9900k vs my streaming pc which is a 3700x


i absolutely agree with you that amd > hands down its cheaper and universally better

i might just had a meh chip but his 9900k beats my 3700x by 1.5-3% i also dont have my streaming pc oc very high

so could just be that... but since i stream regularly its a lot (i know oc doesnt degrade ur parts that much but still i dumped alot into the pc so eh)

https://www.techspot.com/article/1876-4ghz-ryzen-3rd-gen-vs-core-i9/ <- benchmarks gaming the 9900k beats the ryzen line fps wise... productivity side ryzen its 3-10% faster


it all boils down to what software/games you are using if you using a software/game that can utililze more cores or even part of the software that uses more cores, if I rendered in cad id be all over amd right now but I only use parts of cad that few stronger cores wins along with games


you keep talking about niche for video editing and streaming but thats amds strong point unless using software or part of it that is serialized


https://www.pcworld.com/article/3405567/ryzen-3000-review-amds-12-core-ryzen-9-3900x.html?page=3

and then there is this guys tests here on streaming

https://techteamgb.co.uk/2019/07/17/streaming-ryzen-3900x-3700x-vs-9900k-2700x/
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Aug 11 2019 04:20pm
Quote (NatureNames @ Aug 7 2019 01:34am)
I would suspect the ASRock mobo- cheap brand and a rocky history. ASRock was an offshoot Asus did to compete with cheap OEM boards in prebuilt machines. The company has since been sold to Pegatron. I digress. The mobo is just a suspicion though. Removing the IHS and applying liquid metal is dangerous stuff. Doesn't really matter at this point since you can't easily diagnose that without having another Z97 and 4790k to swap everything out.

My only point was you don't know what was causing the system hang ups. it's unreasonable to blame Intel.


entirely unconvinced it's the motherboard, the extreme6 is extremely well built even compared to some of the top z97 boards of those days

Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 7 2019 06:33am)
hey my child bogged down system and many unexperienced pc users bog down theirs too but its the cpu manufacturer lol

like I said user error


[x] doubt

Quote (King Atrhur @ Aug 7 2019 11:51am)
Could be driver related even on fresh install.
Best bet would to post the mini dumps to have it evaluated


could be a likely culprit but that would be difficult to pinpoint and would likely carry over to a new build anyway unless amd interacts with drivers differently (then it would be intel at fault anyway, no?)

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intel is becoming a niche targeted at people who do a ton of heavy multiple core work... 4k editing etc...


all of this is wrong, intels niche is having the best performance at the highest end when looking at single threaded tasks, amd has taken over the multicore world because even if they aren't #1 they're within a margin of error and massively discounted (cheaper in general) to intel

This post was edited by handlewithnocare on Aug 11 2019 04:22pm
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Aug 11 2019 04:23pm
all in all, my woes have been solved, and i'm happy even with a kinda meh bios for ryzen2 so far on my c7h as far as ram support but it's running at spec.
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Quote (handlewithnocare @ Aug 11 2019 05:20pm)
entirely unconvinced it's the motherboard, the extreme6 is extremely well built even compared to some of the top z97 boards of those days



[x] doubt



could be a likely culprit but that would be difficult to pinpoint and would likely carry over to a new build anyway unless amd interacts with drivers differently (then it would be intel at fault anyway, no?)



all of this is wrong, intels niche is having the best performance at the highest end when looking at single threaded tasks, amd has taken over the multicore world because even if they aren't #1 they're within a margin of error and massively discounted (cheaper in general) to intel


Carry over to new build?
How the fuck would it carry over to new build?
Or you mean windows install?
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Aug 12 2019 06:08pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 12 2019 04:58pm)
Carry over to new build?
How the fuck would it carry over to new build?
Or you mean windows install?


i'm saying assuming the only change was cpu mobo and ram, and all the software, files etc were the same, wouldn't the system hangups still happen if it were a driver issue?

but yes, by build i meant just changed parts same install

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Quote (handlewithnocare @ Aug 12 2019 07:08pm)
i'm saying assuming the only change was cpu mobo and ram, and all the software, files etc were the same, wouldn't the system hangups still happen if it were a driver issue?

but yes, by build i meant just changed parts same install


What parts were changed on same install

This post was edited by yupitsmeh on Aug 12 2019 06:41pm
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Aug 12 2019 09:26pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 12 2019 05:38pm)
What parts were changed on same install


i dont know if you aren't reading, but the cpu mobo and ram..

Quote (handlewithnocare @ Aug 12 2019 05:08pm)
i'm saying assuming the only change was cpu mobo and ram, and all the software, files etc were the same, wouldn't the system hangups still happen if it were a driver issue?

but yes, by build i meant just changed parts same install


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Quote (handlewithnocare @ Aug 12 2019 10:26pm)
i dont know if you aren't reading, but the cpu mobo and ram..


so you are saying after mobo change windows wasnt reinstalled?

or refreshed on windows10?

and all the software has been configured for different cpu?

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Quote (yupitsmeh @ Aug 13 2019 04:03am)
so you are saying after mobo change windows wasnt reinstalled?

or refreshed on windows10?

and all the software has been configured for different cpu?


nah i didn't reinstall and still no issues

you can swap platforms without reinstalling -- there isn't any problems
it's just recommended as a precaution to avoid headaches later

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