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Jan 20 2014 01:08pm
Nice achievement. Hope to do the same.
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Jan 20 2014 01:25pm
Congrats! Well done! I am only jelly of your Jah rune ^^

Now do the same without ladder runewords and a physical bowzon ;)

Quote (TuNo @ 20 Jan 2014 20:26)
whats wrong with ladder runewords guys? thats exactly a part of the game it self lol ^^


Not a part of real single player though :p
But I do agree that some builds are boring/not possible without ladder runewords.

This post was edited by FantaExotic on Jan 20 2014 01:29pm
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Quote (FantaExotic @ Jan 20 2014 08:25pm)
Congrats! Well done! I am only jelly of your Jah rune ^^

Now do the same without ladder runewords and a physical bowzon ;)


whats wrong with ladder runewords guys? thats exactly a part of the game it self lol ^^
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Quote (TuNo @ Jan 20 2014 02:26pm)
whats wrong with ladder runewords guys? thats exactly a part of the game it self lol ^^


Indeed. Why would anyone deny themselves runewords when the trade-off is playing on a bot riddled realm? Mini ubers are specifically for battle.net yet keys are in the drop tables of countess/summmoner/nilathak on SP. All the product of lazy patching IMO.
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Quote (FantaExotic @ Jan 20 2014 01:25pm)
Not a part of real single player though :p


I would argue differently, and you well know I'm an avid supporter of NOT modding.

Quote (mysticsword353 @ Jan 20 2014 01:30pm)
Indeed. Why would anyone deny themselves runewords when the trade-off is playing on a bot riddled realm? Mini ubers are specifically for battle.net yet keys are in the drop tables of countess/summmoner/nilathak on SP. All the product of lazy patching IMO.


Mostly because of this. ^

Ladder runewords are native to the game, they are just not patched into SP. I have never heard of a blue post saying that it was intended, either.
Otherwise, upping elite items wouldn't make sense, would it?

It's like saying you shouldn't play on 1.09+ because synergies were intended for pvp, not "the real game".


E:

Quote (FantaExotic @ Jan 20 2014 01:25pm)
Now do the same with a physical bowzon ;)


I will never play boring cookie cutter builds.
Even a nonupped rogue's bow can clear the game as strafe/ga + blood belt.

Even +0 skills, unsynergized lightning fury was massive damage. I tried to make this build as unique as possible.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Jan 20 2014 01:52pm
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Quote (Airwaves @ Jan 20 2014 03:37pm)
I would argue differently, and you well know I'm an avid supporter of NOT modding.



Mostly because of this. ^

Ladder runewords are native to the game, they are just not patched into SP.  I have never heard of a blue post saying that it was intended, either.
Otherwise, upping elite items wouldn't make sense, would it?

It's like saying you shouldn't play on 1.09+ because synergies were intended for pvp, not "the real game".


E:



I will never play boring cookie cutter builds.
Even a nonupped rogue's bow can clear the game as strafe/ga + blood belt.

Even +0 skills, unsynergized lightning fury was massive damage.  I tried to make this build as unique as possible.


but...you bot....
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Jan 26 2014 07:13am
Solid work Airwaves. Nice job on completing it! I would say that any amazon with Titans and LF skills is quite cookie cutter tho :D

I saw your Assassin so I guess you aren't perfecting this one?

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but...you bot....


I don't like you but, haha.

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Quote (mysticsword353 @ Jan 20 2014 03:30pm)
Indeed. Why would anyone deny themselves runewords when the trade-off is playing on a bot riddled realm? Mini ubers are specifically for battle.net yet keys are in the drop tables of countess/summmoner/nilathak on SP. All the product of lazy patching IMO.


The same argument can be made for using extended stash though (bnet mules), and then where do you draw the line?
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Jan 26 2014 01:59pm
The reason Ladder runewords are exclusive is because they're really strong. Ladder words and extended stash make single player WAY to easy even with the shitty builds and arn't fun to track.
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Quote (pickady @ Jan 26 2014 10:45am)
The same argument can be made for using extended stash though (bnet mules), and then where do you draw the line?


You can make that argument if you're very uninformed I guess. You can self mule with tcp/ip and there are to my knowledge programs that will let you self mule legitimately. I don't support that but the concept is the same. Plugy gives you a much larger advantage in terms of overall space that is not comparable to self-muling. The cool thing is I don't care because the only thing that affects me is how I choose to play the game. If I don't like a WT, I don't follow it and leave it at that. I still enjoy walkthroughs with plugy because that is my preference.


Quote (LadMerc @ Jan 26 2014 02:59pm)
The reason Ladder runewords are exclusive is because they're really strong. Ladder words and extended stash make single player WAY to easy even with the shitty builds and arn't fun to track.


The advent of new runewords(in my opinion) were to balance out the new difficulty levels after 1.09. There are still viable runewords to help you along if you play without ladder runewords, but it is my opinion they were created for the new difficulties you will encounter. I find nothing wrong enabling them, nor is it game breaking. I think they scale appropriately in a /p 8 challenge.
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