Not with 1-700 lightning damage. Every 10 mins I had to go afk and wait for my javs to refill.

Sadly, yeah, it's hard to play completely "untwinked" with some of the classes.

I'm keeping my last socket quest and a reset on the back burner for later. I wanted to turn her into an IceMaiden and finish her at some point.




A phoenix sin with clegs and death's set completed hell by pulling monsters 1 at a time, does that make set items really strong?
HC, especially p8, is 90% patience and tactics.

Complete a walkthrough, even on a cookie character, and tell me how single player is "WAY too easy" with them.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Jan 26 2014 04:12pm

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(except spirit, that shit is kinda op)

There's no doubt Ladder RWs makes it easier. But easier doesn't make it easy.

My personal feeling is that Ladder RWs adds more (both funnier and different builds) than it removes. It's a trade I think is fair.

I think plugy takes it too far. Atleast there's balancing issues with it. Anni and Torch is too strong. I do agree that it's not a dealbreaker when it comes to following someone tho.

EDIT: Cookie cutter builds are cookie cutter with or without RWs and other builds gets more viable <- what I meant.

This post was edited by sebhehe on Jan 26 2014 04:22pm

Anni negates the difference between softcore and hardcore builds, completely broken.

As far as following, personally, I follow people who can narrate well enough to make it enjoyable. It's kinda like youtube commentary. What they're playing shouldn't make a difference.

I have 2x WT going but im not going to enable ladder words just to prove a point. You even mentioned Spirit is OP which is obvious along with FORT, GRIEF, HARMONY, INSIGHT, OATH, OBEDIENCE

I list these because in single player their easy to make.

Fort = good luck finding a Lo.

Grief = good luck finding a Lo.

Harmony = Passion gives a better ias frame AND attack rating AND huge def mods for stafe , Melody is better for pure Ice.

Insight = if going to town every other screen for mana pots is supposed to be balanced, then okay. Damage is on par with other mid-NM options CM / Passion.

Oath = technically, yes. however it's only "op" as conquest/cryptic/2hander, and at that point a zeal/barb really fucking needs the damage.

Obedience = again, only going to hit 1k damage in a very slow, eth, elite polearm. borderline.




So your reason for shunning somebody's walkthrough is two borderline situational mid-rune physical weapons, and spirit. What point are you proving here?

Just try and have fun, man. It's not a popularity contest.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Jan 26 2014 05:13pm

Point is Ladder words make early to mid game really easy... that's all (Not fun to watch) Hell is hard no matter what (runewords or not) on p8 so no argument there.

FYI Finding or crafting a Lo is not that hard I found 3x Vex 1x Ohm 1x Sur in a few days time. Just gotta have the determination.

Except that, unless you burn a priceless socket quest or have extraordinary luck, you will not have the bases until at least mid-late Nightmare.

You certainly won't have 3 vex and an Ohm rune before that point.
Even if you sebfarm countess for eth threshers and ists to mute, it's unlikely.




I appreciate your opinion, but in the end, it's a nonissue for the 99% of us who don't play hammerdins and blizz sorcs.

This post was edited by Airwaves on Jan 26 2014 05:50pm

Insight, Spirit, Harmony and Obedience. They are the ladder runewords you can hate on, the rest of them adds further dimensions to the game.

Every other runewords allows less good builds to farm their ass of for a chance to farm as quick as some of the better builds.

This was the first walk through I've ever checked out, and it was totally awesome!

Exhilarating! Great job, Ariwaves! Congratulations and glad you made it!