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Oct 26 2010 01:58pm
Quote (Synonym @ 26 Oct 2010 15:51)
Under 'Worst Case Scenario', indeed.
In case of 75% CB producing more, due to chance being chance, E.G 85% of all attacks, Grief would come about as resultant in more efficiency.


:LOL: how is 75% chance 85% of attacks?
regardless, you're still splitting hairs

if you were really intersted in finding which is best, you should have done calcs for an 8 player game too.

furthermore. a reasonable conclusion would have been that the mathematical results are inconclusive, as the numbers are too close to make any difference, so once again, the play is left to make their own decisions based on personal preference.

that is all
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Oct 26 2010 02:06pm
Quote (MajinKaisa @ Oct 26 2010 10:58pm)
:LOL: how is 75% chance 85% of attacks?
regardless, you're still splitting hairs

if you were really intersted in finding which is best, you should have done calcs for an 8 player game too.

furthermore. a reasonable conclusion would have been that the mathematical results are inconclusive, as the numbers are too close to make any difference, so once again, the play is left to make their own decisions based on personal preference.

that is all


-75% Chance to procc "X" on a series of 100 attacks can procc 85 of all attacks, same as would 1% Chance would have the capacity to procc all 100 attacks. That is why chance is undetermined, and that is precisely the reason I've chosen to use the 'Worst Case Scenario', which would boarder Grief PB at its worst DPS as superior to Last Wish, and all other better performances regarding CB would only indulge the weapon's DPS as greater.

-Nobody does an 'Ubers' run with 8 players in the game, that argument is irrelevant. It is simply made for the torch today.

-The numbers are in fact too close in which case you would come to the conclusion that there is no need to spend so many High Runes in attempt to create this weapon, or waste Forum Gold attaining it, when you have a cheaper and better alternative. The idea here is also to show the inefficiency of this weapon in comparison with its investment in funds.
Refer to: "Cost" section, if you had not seen it yet (Lower end of #1)

Hope I could have enlightened you in a manner which would refrain you from slandering this thread again.
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Oct 26 2010 02:15pm
Quote (Synonym @ 26 Oct 2010 16:06)
-75% Chance to procc "X" on a series of 100 attacks can procc 85 of all attacks, same as would 1% Chance would have the capacity to procc all 100 attacks. That is why chance is undetermined, and that is precisely the reason I've chosen to use the 'Worst Case Scenario', which would boarder Grief PB at its worst DPS as superior to Last Wish, and all other better performances regarding CB would only indulge the weapon's DPS as greater.

-Nobody does an 'Ubers' run with 8 players in the game, that argument is irrelevant. It is simply made for the torch today.

-The numbers are in fact too close in which case you would come to the conclusion that there is no need to spend so many High Runes in attempt to create this weapon, or waste Forum Gold attaining it, when you have a cheaper and better alternative. The idea here is also to show the inefficiency of this weapon in comparison with its investment in funds.
Refer to: "Cost" section, if you had not seen it yet (Lower end of #1)

Hope I could have enlightened you in a manner which would refrain you from slandering this thread again.
Thank you.


Hope you will save this thread and come back in a few years to see how silly everything you said here sounds.
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Oct 26 2010 02:27pm
in my opinion:
lw is the best choice for solo enigma build uber smiter
in other situations, grief >>> lw
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Oct 26 2010 05:04pm
I used LW in the last 2 ladders and have it this ladder since a few Days, but I only want it because it is a “nice to have”. Maybe I am not sensible enough, but I don’t feel a big different between grief and last wish in UT. And also not when the Pala is used as zeal with Azurewrath vs Stromslash vs Grief vs LW. I don’t want to say that there isn’t a different, especially on some immune monsters, but on the most monsters….

How ever, I like this mathematical theoretical discussions, btw. wheres the thread Forty vs Coh and Exil vs upped Zaka? :-)
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Oct 29 2010 06:39am
ehh....Why so many arguments when only Grief does the job lol
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ehh....Why so many arguments when only Grief does the job lol

Because Diablo II is rocket science.
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