Yeah lol that’s why people are complaining.

If they incorporated P2W elements in a completely skill-based genre like FPS then nobody would even touch it in the first place.

honestly this is so obvious and redundant why did you even type it out lol

It's in-response to your second point there, since you've compared Immortal to CS:GO which are completely different genres plus the cash shop model works completely different.

didn't compare csgo with immortal lol


what are you reading and how did you come up with this from reading what I said

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Jun 20 2022 10:27am

P2W or not, the lootbox system in-general is essentially gambling disguised to be innocent, even if the rewards were just cosmetics people would drop tens and thousands just to roll for something that they like, CS:GO skins are amongst some of the most expensive things sold on these forums.

based Lion Ted

exactly why I said what I said...

do not care

people have a choice to buy them or not

My opion on the subject line.

1: I spent some time over in Korea and people sell ID'S outside PC bangs constantly (similar to selling a fake ID to a minor in the US so they can enter a nightclub) but im sure it cuts down on the growing addiction to popular titles in those countries for individuals who are not willing to do such illegal trades. (Think of how many of us (US citizens) were playing Lost Ark prior to the Russian release. Easily 10s of thousands.)

2: I agree that lootboxes are an easy outlet for individuals with gambling addictions to get that "high" and companies spend millions to extort them and even more to create new addicts. These practices are hostile and should be placed in a seperate bracket of gamming and restricted in states/counties/cities that make such practices illegal.
EX#1 I recall a Barbie game my daughter had on her tablet it also had a similar lootbox function these mobile games are targeting children and turning them into addicts at a VERY YOUNG age.
EX#2 My sons talks about games like fortnite/overwatch/hearthstone all the time.....these kids don't talked about the killer wins they got or the insane trick shots they landed....they talk about the MTX that they have on there accounts.....these kids glorify in app purchases over the achievements they accomplish in games. As a parent I have addressed these concerns with my son and after such conversations he has a very clear understanding of what the companies are doing to him and his friends and as such he has moved away from said games.

These kids are the current target market for the gamming industry and to be honest they hit the mark right on the head with advertising using streamers as promoters.

3: For games like this I think it would be only fair to label a consumer any person of legal age to gamble (if it is legal to do so where you live). In the end we consumers decide on what we spend $$$ on. As a consumer if I don't like something on a menu I pick something else off that menu and continue on with my day. Same situation as with the gamming industry currently if I don't like a game I just don't play it.

As a player of DI I rather enjoy the game but I also come from a very stable mindset on what I am willing to spend money on. I also have no obligation in that game to be "competitive" with others on my server. Also my addictive personality gets triggered by the P2P aspects of games that involve Trading/RMT so this game is great for me to steer clear of those triggers as MTX don't lure me in the same way. POE/D2/WoW/Runescape lure me in and I can easily say I have spent a few thousand playing those titles. That being said those models are much more acceptable and result in a far less addictive personality disorder compared to the current mobile market.

Ending statement would be this game needs far stricter regulations and the individuals who are investing in this game should be free to do so along as they meet the federal and state regulations for gambling.
The game is fun but I can see the alluring aspects that would draw people in to spend a stupid amount of money on it.

The lootbox system has definitely got to be reworked to not allow people to pay for power (in any way)

I've played other gacha games such as King of Thieves where it was a very mild on the MTX game, but more along the lines of enjoyment of the game monthly (Battle pass being the main fun, which is a great idea)

A monthly subscription model of up to $10 I can see being bearable for Diablo Immortal.

This post was edited by Meeeeep on Jun 20 2022 02:48pm