Craig and I already came to the decision he did not care about the items. Bit’s website was infiltrated and a user “ Elden “ sold me items that I did not know were Craig’s. Elden@jsp even told me he lost his account. I bought the axe from Yakkus to use in pn and fun duels not for tournaments , etc. I showed the axe off to hengster - he didn’t catch me red handed. I currently do not have any stolen items and I am 100% okay with showing everyone before each duel.

So you knowing bought stolen property?

I have nothing else to say u just dug your own grave.

And nothing in your guild has ever been bought that was stolen or had fake history ? Hmm? Pain song ? Charms , torches , Annis , etc. please. Half your guild drives up all the prices and hoards all the items from everyone. Such hypocrisy here.

Just want to 2nd what Jakee said.

He bought the axe to use in casual duels and never attempted (or planned) to use it in tournament or ladder play. He never attempted to mislead anyone by claiming it was legit for resale or any other purposes. It seems clear to me he didn't intend any wrongdoing. Why else would he have said to Adam "Diablo dropped it"? He was obviously not trying to obscure the sketchy origins of the axe.

Once Tonice/Hengster raised the alarm, B0ba and I talked to Jakee and Jakee immediately volunteered to pursue a refund from Yakkus, which Yakkus graciously agreed to. Jakee no longer has the axe. He wasn't trying to do anything fucked up, and once it was pointed out that it's still BM to buy hot gear, even if for casual use, he made it right.

Tonice - I know you're trying to protect the integry of melee and all but this all feels very personal and biased against Jakee. You post makes it sound like Jakee is a "repeat offender" - but:

1) With Estim's gear it was a totally different situation and once he discovered they were stolen and sold fraudulently on the other site, Jakee offered to eat the cost and return the items to Estim.
2) Your post neglects to mention the measures Jakee took to make it right with Blood Cleaver - i.e. returning the axe

I get that it's easy to be skeptical and say Jakee only returned the item cause he got caught, but keep in mind that he made no real effort to hide what he was doing. Seems clear to me he didn't understand or intend any wrongdoing, and once it was called out to him, he got rid of the axe.

This post was edited by Poog on May 17 2020 09:31pm

Iso blood cleaver, post or pm

Lets be honnest here, you gotta be dumb to buy stolen gear. He tried to sell the zon stolen gear without saying it was stolen, i had to confront him so he drops his price (from 40k to 10k) and tells the history in thread: stolen. How desparated you got to be to buy a 150k+ axe just to play in pn with it, wtf man, even in pn i wouldnt duel a guy who uses stolen gear... its just dumb. I dont hate you Jakee, but dude, stop being shady lol

Honestly I’m still rather new to melee. Craig told me he did not want or care about the items. It was just a hassle to him to try and rebuild from scratch. I offered to give them to him and he denied it. The melee community is so toxic, nobody cares or looks out for one another: TM being a big problem in my opinion. I’ve heard countless things from LM and inner cloister about shit that you guys say in your little discord channel. I know for a fact because I was in TM myself for a short time before being kicked out because of being homosexual. I was never given a reason of being let go until I was approached by a few people — funnily enough some of them are in TM right now! Such a joke. Play the fucking game and put your man pussies away and suck up your egos.

I like this. Let's keep it up

iso blood cleaver, post or pm

Ok, stop playing the victim here. Just stop buying stolen gear and everything is going to be all right. Gay, straight, black or white, it is not okay to buy/use stolen gear. Even if you are new to melee, you should know that buying stolen gear is not okay, unless you are dumb. I’m sure you understand now. Next time, ask for history like everyone does and you will know if its not stolen!

Thanks

This post was edited by Greniator on May 17 2020 10:13pm