Should have listened to this. Pretty fd up, I didn't see a gun in the clip as some are claiming he tossed.

The us vs them rhetoric is def ramping up now. The lady who killed Daunte is at her cushy house protected by police and barricades, meanwhile Brooklyn Center residents are dealing with police mobilized as an occupation force. Tear gas going through windows, bright lights, shots being fired, loud running military equipment patrolling aimlessly in neighborhoods, residents getting arrested for asking police forces to leave.

To elaborate on this, I made a screenshot (from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkB4_nIfODo ):

Looks like a cop in Buffalo getting some wrongs righted.

https://www.axios.com/black-buffalo-officer-fired-stopping-chokehold-wins-lawsuit-bdfd9d2d-f133-4dfb-8bb7-3585712292be.html

Are you kidding me? Do you know how many people could have been killed if he had a semi-automatic assault rifle? All of those cops could have been dead if the kid had a gun. Better to be judged by a gang of 12 than being carried by 6.

You're being sarcastic, aren't you? From the previous pursuit, it was clear that the kid could, at most, have a small handgun hidden somewhere, not an assault rifle.

Was he not running with the gun and then through it behind the fence as he was told to put his hands up?

I’m not justifying it it anyway but is that not what the footage showed?

It's still too risky. Who knows how many officers could have died? What would have happened if he took hostages or started executing civilians through windows?

Giving the officer the benefit of the doubt (because you know the courts will), the cop had every reason to believe the kid was armed. The kid DID test positive for residue on his hands - indicating he had fired a gun. The kid turned around fast, so the officer could have felt he was drawing a weapon. OTOH, he probably also witnessed the kid ditching the gun - visual acuity is so much better for a human eye that a camera in that environment. This is tragic all around. But yeah, he could have given him a little time.



I really wish I hadn't seen it. There's just something about the panic in the cop's voice as he's searching for the bullet wound before the clip ends. Watching a kid buy the farm up close and real personal is not how I would choose to spend my time.



In all likelihood, he was running with a gun.

In the video I linked before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkB4_nIfODo

You can see the incident from various angles and in slow-motion. At 2:24 in this video, you can clearly see the kid ditching the gun which is seen lying behind the fence at 1:30. It appears to me as if the ditching of the gun, turning around and raising his hands was all one smooth movement. Hard to tell from low-res footage, but it's possible that the cop could see the kid pull the gun from the back of his pants, saw him turn around and his hands go up. I wouldnt rule it out that he could not see that the kid had ditched the gun in between, and thus had plausible reason to assume Toledo had pulled his gun and was trying to open fire.


The more I watch and think about it, the more I'm arriving at the opinion that this was a highly tragic incident for which the cop bears comparatively little blame (by the standards of "shot dead a 13 year old unarmed kid"...).

tldr: what the fuck is wrong with this world?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 15 2021 07:31pm