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Oct 17 2019 01:05pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 17 2019 03:03pm)
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1184895840600518656

So Mulvaney acknowledges that part of the reason they were withholding aid to Ukraine was over an investigation into the Crowdstrike/DNC server conspiracy theory.

Not surprising to anyone who has followed this story, but I'm glad he's on the record that the president was withholding aid to an ally fighting Russia on their eastern territory because he believes a truly batshit insane conspiracy theory.


So we went from no quid pro quo to we do that all the time.... uh, yay?

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Oct 17 2019 01:49pm
The administration is now admitting to crimes and shifting to a "get over it" defense.

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So we went from no quid pro quo to we do that all the time.... uh, yay?


Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 17 2019 03:49pm)
The administration is now admitting to crimes and shifting to a "get over it" defense.

https://i.imgur.com/8KIaaFK.png




Yeah, let's all pretend that politics isn't rife with quid prop quo. Politicians have been employing quid pro quo since ancient Rome, and probably before that.

Trump was dealing with the FORMER leader of Ukraine, who WASN'T playing by the rules. He could employ quid pro quo or send in the troops.

Hell sanctions are quid pro quo, so are tariffs. Get a clue folks.
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Oct 17 2019 02:02pm
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Yeah, let's all pretend that politics isn't rife with quid prop quo. Politicians have been employing quid pro quo since ancient Rome, and probably before that.

Trump was dealing with the FORMER leader of Ukraine, who WASN'T playing by the rules. He could employ quid pro quo or send in the troops.

Hell sanctions are quid pro quo, so are tariffs. Get a clue folks.


"no quid pro quo" - Ghot last week

"quid pro quo is the status quo bro" Ghot now

LOL
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"no quid pro quo" - Ghot last week

"quid pro quo is the status quo bro" Ghot now

LOL




Don't misquiote me lad. I said there was no quid pro quo in the transcript of the phone con. That's with the NEW Ukrainian leader.

With the old Ukrainian leader, who was a scum bucket.... no holds barred was the plan of the day. Try to keep the two separate.
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"no quid pro quo" - Ghot last week

"quid pro quo is the status quo bro" Ghot now

LOL


Pretty much what trump's administration did. First it was no quid pro quo and fake news.
Then he releases the memorandum and people try to play it off as a verbatim transcript that actually confirms the quid pro quo though they claim it doesn't.
Now we've moved onto "well of course there's quid pro quo, we do it all the time, get over it"
What a roller coaster ride we have here.

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Pretty much what trump's administration did. First it was no quid pro quo and fake news.
Then he releases the memorandum and people try to play it off as a verbatim transcript that confirms the quid pro quo though they claim it doesn't.
Now we've moved onto "well of course there's quid pro quo, we do it all the time, get over it"
What a roller coaster ride we have here.


dealing with trump scandals is like a slinky walking down stairs. it just keeps going down down down down. then it looks like it wont make it, and it tumbles 2-3 steps, and boom its walking again.
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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Oct 17 2019 04:08pm)
Pretty much what trump's administration did. First it was no quid pro quo and fake news.
Then he releases the memorandum and people try to play it off as a verbatim transcript that confirms the quid pro quo though they claim it doesn't.
Now we've to "well of course there's quid pro quo, we do it all the time, get over it"
What a roller coaster ride we have here.




Ya know what the real problem in the US today...is?

It's the Democratic party, who rigged the 2016 election, were sure they had it in the bag and then... lost.

That left them two options....


1. Annihilate the other party... the one that won.
2. Make sure no one discovers that they DID try to rig the election.



Everything that's been going on since November 2016...is about these two things. Anyone selling as different analysis, is full of crap. :/
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Oct 17 2019 02:21pm
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Ya know what the real problem in the US today...is?

It's the Democratic party, who rigged the 2016 election, were sure they had it in the bag and then... lost.

That left them two options....


1. Annihilate the other party... the one that won.
2. Make sure no one discovers that they DID try to rig the election.



Everything that's been going on since November 2016...is about these two things. Anyone selling as different analysis, is full of crap. :/


/r/enlightenedcentrism

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